Judge upholds North Carolina's voter ID law

I Love America said:
That is wonderful. I am happy for her too. But how did she even get into the White House without ID?

They are very clear about visitors having ID

Any thoughts? Do you need to huddle up with your crew?
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I'm pretty sure they let her in without it, they do make exceptions to rules and especially in the case of a 106 year old woman.
 
Rana said:
I'm pretty sure they let her in without it, they do make exceptions to rules and especially in the case of a 106 year old woman.
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How do you know they make exceptions? Do you have documentation? I didn't see that on the website.

Do you think people are disenfranchised if they can't get into the White House without ID? Is it unfair?
 
I Love America said:
How do you know they make exceptions? Do you have documentation? I didn't see that on the website.

Do you think people are disenfranchised if they can't get into the White House without ID? Is it unfair?
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You will have to contact the White House and ask them.

How do I know, the woman was clearly at the White House, and she stated she had no birth certificate or ID, so they made an exception because she was 106 years old.

I think it would be impossible for the White House to post all the exceptions they might allow, I am sure it is a case by case determination.

Getting into the White House is not a right as is voting.
 
Rana said:
I never said anything about ID, it is the type of ID which is unconstitutional. The state requiring you to have a specific type of ID is unconstitutional and if they have no ID they should be allowed to vote a questioned ballot which will be confirmed at headquarters.
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So requiring a state issued picture ID is unconstitutional?? :dunno:
 
Every thorough study of voter impersonation has found it to be exceedingly rare.

Lorraine Minnite of Rutgers University notes that in 2005, at the peak of a federal crackdown, “federal prosecutors indicted far more people for violations of the nation’s migratory-bird laws than for election fraud.”

A comprehensive national study by the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism at Arizona State University scrutinized thousands of allegations; it found ten examples of in-person voter impersonation over a dozen years.

A draft study for the federal Election Assistance Commission conducted by Democratic and Republican experts concluded, “There is widespread but not unanimous agreement that there is little polling place fraud, or at least much less than claimed, including voter impersonation, ‘dead’ voters, noncitizen voting and felon voters.” Justin Levitt calculated that statistically “it is more likely that an individual will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”

http://billmoyers.com/story/whats-behind-the-gop-witch-hunt-for-voter-fraud/
 
Legion Troll said:
Every thorough study of voter impersonation has found it to be exceedingly rare.

Lorraine Minnite of Rutgers University notes that in 2005, at the peak of a federal crackdown, “federal prosecutors indicted far more people for violations of the nation’s migratory-bird laws than for election fraud.”

A comprehensive national study by the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism at Arizona State University scrutinized thousands of allegations; it found ten examples of in-person voter impersonation over a dozen years.

A draft study for the federal Election Assistance Commission conducted by Democratic and Republican experts concluded, “There is widespread but not unanimous agreement that there is little polling place fraud, or at least much less than claimed, including voter impersonation, ‘dead’ voters, noncitizen voting and felon voters.” Justin Levitt calculated that statistically “it is more likely that an individual will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”

http://billmoyers.com/story/whats-behind-the-gop-witch-hunt-for-voter-fraud/
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yep, just as I thought
 
Deep Throat said:
The demalquedacrats will always overlook voter fraud because they benefit from it.
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How come there weren't criminal charges, trials, convictions, etc., Secret Squirrel?


John Ashcroft formally made combating voter fraud a priority for the Justice Department, demanding that “all components of the Department place a high priority on the investigation and prosecution of election fraud.”

Dozens of probes produced little, though an effort was made to spin the results; a press release in 2005 summing up the department’s work nationwide, for example, breathlessly announced that three individuals had been convicted of fraudulent voting in both Missouri and Kansas.

Nationwide from 2002 to 2005 only 24 people were convicted of illegal voting in federal elections and no one was charged with voter impersonation; by 2007 only 120 people had been charged and 86 convicted.

“Many of those charged by the Justice Department appear to have mistakenly filled out registration forms or misunderstood eligibility rules,” analysis concluded.



http://billmoyers.com/story/whats-behind-the-gop-witch-hunt-for-voter-fraud/
 
Secret Squirrel said:
That is wonderful. I am happy for her too. But how did she even get into the White House without ID?
They are very clear about visitors having ID Any thoughts? Do you need to huddle up with your crew?
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Was she on a public White House tour, which requires an ID, or was she a personally-invited guest of the President of the United States of America and his wife?
 
Rana said:
No, not really, any thinking person would be able to reason through why a 106 year old woman wasn't required to show ID at the White House.
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Especially one who was a personally-invited guest of the President of the United States of America and his wife.

Only a moron would think the the public White House tour rules apply to guests of the POTUS, but we are talking about ILA here. :rofl2:
 
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