Judge orders Trump to pay nearly $355 million in civil fraud trial

[Phantasmal]

I love that the Judge fined Alan Weiselberg $1MM, to claw back part of the $2MM that Trump paid him to shut up about all cases.

What i like about it is that Alan was being paid out over time, as long as he did not voluntarily cooperate with law enforcement, and i would bet he has not even got $1MM yet and i doubt he will ever be paid the rest. So Alan will have to dig deep in his pockets.

#SoMuchWinningTheyTireOfWinning

The other million, he’s used to pay lawyers.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

it;s good judge engoron is here to save capitalism.

Judge Engoron is here to oversee trials and make decisions based on the law and facts.
The facts seem to be the Trump broke the law by filing false documents that were required by law to be true.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

oh look, it's the dumbest fuck on the internet.

It seems you spend too much time on Only Fans.

 

[QP!]

all polls.

dems are losing everyone because they're transparently awful.

ahahahahaha.

Ok, you can have 'the polls' as your win, even though not all polls say that.

We will take the actual string of election wins that keep defying the polls. We will take the string of legal wins against Trump.

You cling to the polls.

Oh BTW do you know 'all polls' had Hilary beating Trump in 2016?

 

[Phyllis Diller]

Judge Engoron is here to oversee trials and make decisions based on the law and facts.
The facts seem to be the Trump broke the law by filing false documents that were required by law to be true.

the facts seem to be that both parties to the actual contract were happy and this decision is purely political and is actually an interference on the judge's part, which sets a poor precedent going forward for the practice of private trade.



you believe bad things and you're an awful person.

 

[Nordberg]

it goes so much beyond that though.

Yes it wrong and fraud to lie about 'square footage' or 'fudge numbers', and 'lots of people and businesses do that to a lesser degree', but as the Judge cites , and i reposted above, Trump in numerous instances just created fantasy filings to get loans.

Back in the 80's i bought a single lot of speculative land in an area of Florida that had the potential to boom, if development rights went in that direction or bust if that area was never zoned for development. I paid $8000 for the gamble. I sold that land 10 years later for $12000 as the development rights were never granted in the way that would allow it to boom.

What Trump would do, time and again, if he owned that land I bought, is tell the bank it was valued at the highest speculative value one could attach to it, as if the development rights were granted, when he knew they were not. He would tell the bank he already developed it and all costs were paid and it was worth $2MM, based on his estimation of it being worth that, if the rights came thru. That is EXACTLY what he did with 7 Springs above.

So to even associate Trumps level of fraud, as a worse version of the more run of the mill 'fudging' others do is very wrong.

Trump is the full meal deal when it comes to fraud. His frauds are at every level and many levels most fraudsters refuse to go as they know the penalty will not just be a fine and may be jail time.

He claimed to the bank that the land around Mira Lago could be developed into homes and apartments. He signed a deal saying they could never be developed for lower tax rate. That was just lying, which is how Trump operates.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

the facts seem to be that both parties to the actual contract were happy and this decision is purely political and is actually an interference on the judge's part, which sets a poor precedent going forward for the practice of private trade.



you believe bad things and you're an awful person.

The facts seem to be that both parties were not aware of the fraud at the time it occurred.
The facts also seem to be that the both parties don't have not to be OK with the fraud for the fraud to occur. Most people that are defrauded are too embarrassed to admit they were defrauded. That doesn't mean no fraud occurred.

 

[Nordberg]

Weisselberg will go the Rudy way. They will go broke because Trump no longer needs them.

 

[Phantasmal]

Banks were not the victims, everyone who played by the rules were the victims including every taxpayer in this country.

Banks were the victims,

 

[Diesel]

There is one America...which is why I don't support a justice system that is so obviously rotten to the core...It's not about support for Donald Trump... but it certainly does seem to be about hate for him... and most things conservative... I'm not even sure America has anything that can be properly labeled a court of law anymore...

Do you know what a person who doesn't complain about the rules of a game until they lose is called? A poor sport and a sore loser. What's truly concerning is that your type doesn't even hesitate to trash the institutions of American democracy just to suck on Donald Trump's pinky dick. You ought to spend more time trying to develop integrity and an upstanding character.

 

[Diesel]

Right now we are no longer remotely United as a country... and that certainly is a major concern...

That's because you people took a sharp turn on Crazy Lane. Thinking people do not unite with delusional, uneducated psychopaths.

 

[QP!]

the facts seem to be that both parties to the actual contract were happy and this decision is purely political and is actually an interference on the judge's part, which sets a poor precedent going forward for the practice of private trade.



you believe bad things and you're an awful person.

Please prove to us you believe what you say here and are not just a liar.

Go to several banks, submit loan documents that you own millions of dollars you do not not own. And when the police show up to arrest you claim 'no fraud, because you never got offered a loan and did not accept any loan, thus no bank lost money'.

Stand behind your belief that there is no crime there and submit back to us, when done.

 

[evince]

Banks were the victims,

And anyone who didn’t get a loan by playing fair instead of cheating like donnie

 

[Diesel]

We were one country... how about that? I remember when we were... It was a much Kinder and gentler time....America has been a work of progress for quite some time but we were going in the right direction... The past three years have erased Decades of that progress... I see it every single day...

Interesting timeline you plucked out of the sky to coincide with Biden's presidency. Of course, the rest of us realize that the collapse began when a Black man was elected nearly 16 years ago.

 

[Diesel]

Yes with any luck maybe when Trump goes down in flames the Republican party can finally reject the asshole and return to being the conservatives instead of those constantly sucking Trumps dick.

I actually long for a functional conservative party. That is not the Republicans. They have run out every true conservative as a "RINO" and whored out the entire party to worship Trump. It is the single greatest failure of American conservatism.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

Please prove to us you believe what you say here and are not just a liar.

Go to several banks, submit loan documents that you own millions of dollars you do not not own. And when the police show up to arrest you claim 'no fraud, because you never got offered a loan and did not accept any loan, thus no bank lost money'.

Stand behind your belief that there is no crime there and submit back to us, when done.

none of that happened in trumps case, you fucking idiot.

this is a form of moving the goalposts, a fallacial rhetorical attempt.

but you know that.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

I actually long for a functional conservative party. That is not the Republicans. They have run out every true conservative as a "RINO" and whored out the entire party to worship Trump. It is the single greatest failure of American conservatism.

which run out RINO is the true conservative?

 

[Diesel]

which run out RINO is the true conservative?

I love a stupid question on a Saturday. Here. Read this: https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...just-how-conservative-are-their-replacements/

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Do you know what a person who doesn't complain about the rules of a game until they lose is called? A poor sport and a sore loser. What's truly concerning is that your type doesn't even hesitate to trash the institutions of American democracy just to suck on Donald Trump's pinky dick. You ought to spend more time trying to develop integrity and an upstanding character.

Best, cleanest definition of a Trump Dick Sucker I've seen all year.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Because you think there are lots of voters who hate America so much they support a draft-dodging, adulterous, lying traitor and pedophile?

I think lots of voters see through the Democrat's and Left's lies and provocations, along with their incessant fear mongering--like you just did--that the more you and they do it, the more people will stop listening and walk away from Democrat / Leftists running for office. For example, your four claims could easily be laid on Biden too. Now what?