You conflate sin with punishment.
Jordanian Christian kills daughter for converting to Islam
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You conflate sin with punishment.
Legion Troll
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Does the Bible say that homosexuals should be killed?
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Not at all. Just pointing out that some cherrypick the OT.
Anyone can make any book fit their agenda. And that's exactly what too many religious people do.
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You can get it from any Muslim who advocates adherence to strict sharia law. Do you really think they just make this stuff up lol.
There's a controversy amongst Islamic jurists over whether sharia should just be based on the Koran or the Koran plus the Hadith. If you want to say the latter group is 'wrong' that's fine. But that doesn't exempt Islam. Strict sharia is nothing more than a pretext to use such barbaric practices as stoning for adultery or apostasy.
There simply is no parallel in contemporary Christianity. The problem for Christians is they have to be free of sin before they can stone anyone.
Per Jesus.
Swing and a miss.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone
This represented a distinct shift in the new testement as well as Jesus accepting punishment for our sins.
This is the crux of the new covenant.
Most non Christians don't get it but you don't have to be one.
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Did you read the OP, Nurse?
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You're seeing the parallel right on this thread. I have seen MANY Christians argue that the OT is just as much a part of Christianity as the NT, and should be adhered to word-for-word.
It's really the same thing. Trying to differentiate is splitting hairs.
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Nah. It's just taking whatever is convenient for your agenda - that's all I've ever really seen w/ the Bible.
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Their faith is selective.
Really? Hmm.
I actually know Christians who would differ with that opinion.
Actually, they refer to themselves as having had an Ecclesiastical Bypass, but at one time they took the bible as, "the thing and the whole of the thing."
Because when it comes to Christians, there are all sorts, and they interpret the bible any damned way they want, so long as the interpretation meets whatever agenda they happen to have on a particular day.
By the way, if you want a NT reference for God demanding that those who won't worship and be subjugated to him be killed, you might want to peruse Luke a little. There's one in there.
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The story changes depending on which act of hate they're trying to justify or deny.
Some claim that the Torah is 'old' or 'Jewish' or a 'shadow,' and therefore they sit in judgment on parts of the Word and deem them irrelevant. But the Bible never says these things or things like them. In fact, Jesus says that "Scripture cannot be broken" in John 10:35 and that "whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:19).
http://www.wholebible.com/
Some claim that the Torah is 'old' or 'Jewish' or a 'shadow,' and therefore they sit in judgment on parts of the Word and deem them irrelevant. But the Bible never says these things or things like them. In fact, Jesus says that "Scripture cannot be broken" in John 10:35 and that "whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:19).
http://www.wholebible.com/
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Why do billions of Christians ignore it?
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It's incredible that you can ask this about Christians, but not about Muslims. Speaks volumes.
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9/11 happened nearly 16 years ago, but you don't let that stop you or the other Islamophobic bigots from citing it.
9/11 happened nearly 16 years ago, but you don't let that stop you or the other Islamophobic bigots from citing it.
Nice pagan crusader burn!
9/11 happened nearly 16 years ago, but you don't let that stop you or the other Islamophobic bigots from citing it.
thats because muslims are evil
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States ).
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
Again...it must be pointed out that no "CHRISTIAN" killed his/her child. Because someone "claims" to be Christian does not make it so. The Holy Bible is the source of righteous Christian Doctrine. Show us the Book, Chapter and Verse that condones such action....IT DOES NOT EXIST.
One would have to be totally ignorant of the Bible and its teachings to deny that Jesus Christ is the foundation to righteous Christian principles and is the corner building block of all that is contained in the Holy Bible. There is not a single doctrine or the smallest nuance of biblical teaching that does not have the Christ as its foundation.
Modernistic secular teaching void of any Biblical foundation is what produces or attempts to produce the false dichotomy of EXAMPLING at least 2 versions of Christianity. One that presents the lie that one is a Christian because he/she wants to label themselves as a Christian, and the true Doctrine....one is a Christian that follows the doctrine established by the Word of God.
I most enjoy those who ignorantly attempt to pigeon hole individuals by CLASSIFYING them based upon false claims and then determining that ALL CHRISTIANS are to blame for the human failures of those who exhibit evil.
That's like saying my dog is guilty of being vicious and must be put down because one of the same breed attacked a child (regardless and void of the individual training this animal has been subjected to). Its the same....when one has never been lovingly subjected to the truth they have received nothing but the training of the false teacher responsible for errant actions even if that teacher is "SELF". No one is born A CHRISTIAN...its not innate to the human condition...CHRISTIANITY is not a RACE of PEOPLES, Christianity is a way of life. There is a word for such people who demand to pigeon hole EVERYONE.....
B I G O T
On the other hand.....one can take the KORAN and point out the doctrine that some call RADICAL ISLAM that indeed teaches such action with a supposed honor killing...when in reality, its the moderate, modern Muslim that is the RADICAL that strays from the truth actually taught in the Koran concerning World Domination at the point of a sword if necessary.
That's the difference between Christianity and Islam for example. One teaches the building and construction of a Spiritual Kingdom that is rewarded after the race (death) is over....while the Koran teaches the LITERAL attempt to conquer the world by violent physical warfare when those who claim the faith "feel" threatened....and a threat, as demonstrated time and time again can as much/little as THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS in presenting a cartoon.
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Legion Troll
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The "No true Scotsman" gambit again?
Do you make the same argument when people say they kill in the name of Allah?
9/11 happened nearly 16 years ago, but you don't let that stop you or the other Islamophobic bigots from citing it.
I guess I will pull out my tissues and start crying....not. I think you are pissy since I pointed out this was from 2014 and its 2016 and no one still gives a fuck.