We'll see if the bolded is true. I don't get the impression it will be.
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We'll see if the bolded is true. I don't get the impression it will be.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
What you call "identity politics" was just Obama trying walk the middle and be fair to both sides, which meant occasionally and openly expressing empathy for how certain blacks felt in certain situations. As soon as he did that, and it was seen by certain people that he wasn't going to just be an Uncle Tom and always take the white side only in every situation, the accusations of "identity politics" and "dividing the country" started.
And I can tell you that from what I've seen, the identity politics by both sides has increased under Trump more than under any other president. Under Obama, it was the Republican right that really devolved into that.
Having a black POTUS with an African sounding last name just drove you people right over the edge.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
Well, we know the Trump Kool Aid guzzlers won't believe him.
God Himself could descend from Heaven just to proclaim Trump guilty as original sin and the Trumptards would call him a liar.
When he injected himself into the Trayvon situation, that was ridiculous. Granted, the way the media handled that whole situation was ridiculous in general.
I don't blame Obama for the overall trend of identity politics, however. That can more accurately be attributed to social media's influence on political discourse. Just like how the 24 hour news cycle made news coverage very sensational, social media shrank people's attention spans and encouraged them to think less logically and more emotionally.
When I talk about identity politics, it's not as much about race as it is other things. The transgender agenda is the most blatant and absurd part of identity politics. Feminism is another part of it. While some of the race baiting by the left is bad, it still takes a backseat to the craziness of "gender identity" and the hysteria that feminists often engage in.
So, when I say the "Obama era", I'm not really focusing on him specifically. It's that the years he was in office were the pivotal ones in which media and society started getting crazier about these issues. Obama wasn't the cause. He was, in hindsight, merely a symptom.
Some conservatives were guilty of that. I think Obama was deserving of a lot of criticism, but some of the criticism was unfounded.
Nonetheless, by the time that Trump was running, I had my fill of dealing with what the left became. That's why I switched sides.
I guess you now know how I felt whenever the left deflected legitimate criticisms of Obama. Typically, they'd claim it was racism.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
Saying that Obama "injected himself" into the Trayvon Martin case is a gross exaggeration. It was a major national story that was in the news constantly so as President, and especially as the first black President in history, he was expected to make a comment, which was all he did.
He commented on it, appealed for calm and empathized with Martin's parents.
And the right blew a gasket over it.
One statement is not "injecting" oneself.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
I guess you now know how I felt whenever the right deflected legitimate criticisms of Bush. Typically, they'd call us snowflakes.
Goose/gander.
Pot/kettle.
Etc/etc.
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Saying that you'd have a son like a neighborhood hoodlum was not a good look. Sure, it pandered to certain elements, but honestly, it just made him look foolish.
If Obama actually had a son, he hopefully would be nothing like Trayvon. His daughters certainly don't seem anything like him.
Sure, I can agree with that. I wasn't a fan of Bush. I voted against him both times.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
He said that if he had a son, he'd LOOK LIKE Trayvon, not be like him.
And he wasn't pandering to anyone. He was explaining why he could empathize with Martin's parents. Seeing pictures of Martin and knowing that if he had a son, he'd probably look like him, had an affect on him.
Misrepresenting what other people say just because you dislike them and want to make them sound bad is not a good look for you, either.
If Obama had a son, he might look like Trayvon, but he'd probably be a summa cum laude graduate of Harvard Medical School.
One thing's for certain, he wouldn't be a greasy looking third rate grifter like Don Jr.
That guy looks like he should be doing 70's porn movies.
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Don't speak for the left. Bolton was uncomfortably honest talking about his warlike beliefs. He is a PNAC neocon and never hid it. He is proud of his aggressive military stance. We don't like Bolton at all but he will likely tell the truth about trump. We do not know what Bolton thinks about Trump. He was in his administration as a security adviser.
He identified because Trayvon was essentially the same age as a son would be if he had one. Trayvon was a terrible kid who ate skittles and walked to the store.
You know what he meant by it, but you're just playing dumb.
You're just grasping desperately for anything to remove Trump, and when this impeachment trial fails to do anything, the Democrats will just come up with something else to smear Trump with.
He did more than that. He was stealing from people's houses. He would have likely done the same on the night that he was killed if Zimmerman hadn't followed him.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
Are you honestly trying to say that Obama suggested that if he had a son he'd be getting in trouble in school and out wandering around his divorced father's apartment complex alone on a Sunday night?
Obama said what he meant and he was/is not given to couching his meaning in code-speak like Trump and pretty much every other right-winger.
You are the one who is playing dumb here.
Obama merely showed empathy for parents who, for whatever the reason was and whoever was to blame, lost a teenage son. And because he, the parents and their deceased son were black, the right had a spastic meltdown over it.
Remember also, in his remarks he appealed for calm and encouraged the marchers and protesters to remain peaceful and not resort to violence. Something that is well within the purview and responsibility of his office, and something the right intentionally ignores and refuses to acknowledge.
All your side wants to harp on and mischaracterize, is the part about if he had a son.....
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
I actually agree that he was in trouble a lot and likely did the things you claim, but it doesn't change the fact that his parents were grieving his death like any parents would be, and they deserved to hear from the President that he felt sympathy for them.
It's like you're expecting Obama to have come out and publicly said "screw him, he got what he deserved".
That's the only thing that would have made the right happy.