Joe Paterno at center of an unholy mess

Superfreak said:
I disagree. Child rapists are not provided protective custody. They are put among the general population. It would take an extraordinary leap in my opinion to say that the general population was 'unusual punishment'.
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They are put in Genpop if there is no reason to believe that Genpop knows what they've done. This case is absolutely different, the prison's genpop cannot be used as an ad hoc death penalty, which is what would happen if this guy got what he deserved. He won't though, he'll wind up in protective custody, like a cop.
 
Darla said:
I used to work for an organization, a non-profit, whose main goal was child sex abuse prevention. The pedophiles target disadvantaged kids and any kid with problems. For instance they will target a child who is in trouble with juvenile law. They think no one will believe them. The really heart-rending thing is; nobody does. Nobody listens to them. Nobody cares. Also, pedophiles who target boys will rape/molest at least triple the number of victims as a pedophile who targets girls, before they are caught. On average. This guy seems textbook, but the institution of Penn State appears to have provided the kind of cover up for his actions that we've so far been used to from the Catholic Church. This is not something I've heard of schools doing before. It's really evil.
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That we haven't heard about it doesn't change that it may be happening. Who would have believed that about the Church before it came out. The actions that make it most systemic is the protections that these people are given.

It's beyond sick. He created the very tool he used to find and groom his victims.
 
Superfreak said:
I had to stop reading as well. It is beyond the pale. You are right, if he doesn't kill himself he is without question going to reap what he sowed.
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It made me sick to my stomach. I have been dealing with stomach and high blood pressure problems, probably should stay off this board ;)
 
I had heard that Penn State had an unusually high recruitment list of tight ends. Now we see why.
 
Darla said:
I used to work for an organization, a non-profit, whose main goal was child sex abuse prevention. The pedophiles target disadvantaged kids and any kid with problems. For instance they will target a child who is in trouble with juvenile law. They think no one will believe them. The really heart-rending thing is; nobody does. Nobody listens to them. Nobody cares. Also, pedophiles who target boys will rape/molest at least triple the number of victims as a pedophile who targets girls, before they are caught. On average. This guy seems textbook, but the institution of Penn State appears to have provided the kind of cover up for his actions that we've so far been used to from the Catholic Church. This is not something I've heard of schools doing before. It's really evil.
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I agree, it is evil. The coward started a program to 'help' disadvantaged youth. He basically set himself up a buffet of young kids to choose from. This shit makes me want to go postal on him and those that covered it up at Penn State. Up until this story, I loved Joe Pa and what he meant to college football. This just destroyed the image he created over the past five decades at Penn St.
 
bravo said:
All the hoopla about Paterno......

Where the fuck is the outrage for the eyewitness that actually saw a kid being abused and does nothing......leaves the kid to the abuser and goes his
merry way home to call his Daddy first, then to Paterno with his now hearsay evidence and tells him......

Now Joe is on the spot with what to do....suppose he goes to the cops and it turns out to be a lie.....destroying an innocent mans reputation in the process....
He didn't witness it....its just another accusation about someone else to him....
He reports the accusation to the higher ups at the school as he should.....
Paterno is a football coach not the freakin' dean of the school.....

Now what kind of asshole sees a kid being abused and walks away without so much as a "Hey, whats going on there".....
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If you read our papers you'd see there's plenty of outrage for the eyewitnesses, the AD, coaches, Spanier, etc. Joe is one of the lesser links in the chain but he's still culpable. Furthermore, if you read the entire Grand Jury report, you'd learn that even the State College cops and agencies are in for their share of blame. It's almost like there was a conspiracy of silence for all these years. Some here said they couldn't stomach reading the entire report . It's not just the sexual details that are appalling, it's the way the allegations were glossed over or covered up by everybody. Page 9, "Schultz testified that the allegations were not that serious..." Apparently Penn State is such a power in the area that they're not held to the same standard as regular mortals.

All I can say is, if one of the victims was your grandchild you'd be singing a different song about Paterno.
 
Darla said:
He's very sick. But it seems to me that he had institutional protection. That is even more horrifying. Heartbreaking that he picked on disadvantaged kids with promises of going to see games. I mean seriously, you could cry just from reading that part. But he had some power there protecting and shielding him. That is beyond sick to me, it's horrifying. Like SF said, it really reminded me of the Catholic Church. Who's sicker? The pedophile rapist or the people who give him cover? What's more evil? You could debate that for a long time, but every monster who had a hand in this needs to pay.
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He absolutely had institutional protection for years. No question about it. I am curious about his wife and family. He had these young boys sleeping over and molested them in the guest room. Didn't Mrs. Sandusky wonder why he spent so much time there with the kid(s)? The couple had six adopted children of their own, I hope to God he didn't molest them, too.
 
Superfreak said:
I agree, it is evil. The coward started a program to 'help' disadvantaged youth. He basically set himself up a buffet of young kids to choose from. This shit makes me want to go postal on him and those that covered it up at Penn State. Up until this story, I loved Joe Pa and what he meant to college football. This just destroyed the image he created over the past five decades at Penn St.
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Absolutely. Sandusky's a textbook example of a pedophile, too bad we had to learn about it in hindsight.
 
christiefan915 said:
One was a janitor and one was a grad assistant.
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Thanks Sweetie....I had not heard about this janitor and what he saw......or when....

I assume by the grad assistant you mean now Asst. Coach McQueary that witnessed the abuse in 2002...

How McQueary could see abuse taking place and not intervene is beyond understanding.....
When all he had to do is shout out, "Hey, what the fuck is going on in there" and that that child the hell out of harms way.....

He is the real villain in this entire debacle....not Paterno

Paterno could not go to police on the testimony of someone else....he could not know if that person (McQueary) was telling the truth or just not seeing straight...
It was McQueary's duty to report what he himself, witnessed
 
bravo said:
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Thanks Sweetie....I had not heard about this janitor and what he saw......or when....

I assume by the grad assistant you mean now Asst. Coach McQueary that witnessed the abuse in 2002...

How McQueary could see abuse taking place and not intervene is beyond understanding.....
When all he had to do is shout out, "Hey, what the fuck is going on in there" and that that child the hell out of harms way.....

He is the real villain in this entire debacle....not Paterno

Paterno could not go to police on the testimony of someone else....he could not know if that person (McQueary) was telling the truth or just not seeing straight...
It was McQueary's duty to report what he himself, witnessed
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You don't have to pick and choose. Both McQueary and Paterno share blame. In my view, putting the blame entirely on Sandusky's subordinate instead of Sandusky's boss is ridiculous.
 
Cornholio said:
I wonder how you've managed to live this long without drowning on your own spit.
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Many of you condemned ALL Christians because a so called Christian gunned down kids in Norway....


Using the same logic, Yurt has a point. You're just too fuckin' ignorant to see it, you asshole....
 
Cornholio said:
You don't have to pick and choose. Both McQueary and Paterno share blame. In my view, putting the blame entirely on Sandusky's subordinate instead of Sandusky's boss is ridiculous.
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Paterno WAS NOT Sanduskys boss......that ended in 1999....

And Paterno didn't witness anything.....if he was an actual witness, that would be much different....
 
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