Jim Webb: "Democrats are acting like aristocrats"

[blackascoal]

you posted thru Rune -agreeing with that idiot, because unfocused hatred has warped your mind.
Leave me out of your circle jerk, and I'm more then happy to ignore your blatherings henceforth..

You showed me Libya -but I long surpassed any knowledge you have -being stuck on Qadaffi was a Socialist.

You still can't see the humanitarian disastrous aftermath by willful ignorance or just inability to understand the nexus of North African terrorism to the mideast and throughout the Sahel and sub-Saharan Africa.
You are clueless

I doubt you even understand the so called "migrants" are basically being slave traded to Europe by Libyan Arabs.

"Independent thinker" my arse- your own words belie you- you're nothing more then a partisan hack

Yes, I was talking to Rune .. not to your dumb dropout ass.

You ate my shit until I stopped talking to you about Libya, but your 'analysis' for lack of a better word was pure comedy .. singularly focused on your creepy fascination with Hillary .. truth just flew right past your noggin'.

nod, nod motherfucker. Get a clue.

 

[Rune]

you posted thru Rune -agreeing with that idiot, because unfocused hatred has warped your mind.
Leave me out of your circle jerk, and I'm more then happy to ignore your blatherings henceforth..

You showed me Libya -but I long surpassed any knowledge you have -being stuck on Qadaffi was a Socialist.

You still can't see the humanitarian disastrous aftermath by willful ignorance or just inability to understand the nexus of North African terrorism to the mideast and throughout the Sahel and sub-Saharan Africa.
You are clueless

I doubt you even understand the so called "migrants" are basically being slave traded to Europe by Libyan Arabs.

"Independent thinker" my arse- your own words belie you- you're nothing more then a partisan hack

Oh the fucking irony

 

[USFREEDOM911]

You did it. He is gonna go all angry negro on you and call you a motherfucker

How many people does BAC think has fucked his mother??

 

[USFREEDOM911]

So scary when you use the word motherfucker. Makes you sound so street when in reality you are probably more Erkel

Looks like we're now both being accused of fucking his mother.
I guess it's a possibility.

And now he's accusing annatta of the same thing!!

How odd that all of us ended up on the same board.

Maybe that's why he's here.
It's because he's trying to find out who his father is.

 

[Teflon Don]

How many people does BAC think has fucked his mother??

Well being the whore she was, probably everyone.

You know his kind don't usually don't know who their daddy is

 

[Teflon Don]

Maybe nobody wished Blackasshole a happy negro history month yet? Maybe that is why he is so cranky. Or it could be his period

 

[anatta]

Yes, I was talking to Rune .. not to your dumb dropout ass.

You ate my shit until I stopped talking to you about Libya, but your 'analysis' for lack of a better word was pure comedy .. singularly focused on your creepy fascination with Hillary .. truth just flew right past your noggin'.

nod, nod motherfucker. Get a clue.

ROFL @ "creepy fascination w/Hillary".
Even Bernie nailed her on plutocratic big donor driven warmongering - it's obvious-
except to dump partisans like yourself

I notice you still fail to see/condemn past arab slave trading is much the same as what Libyan tribes do to current sub-Saharan "migrants"???

Where's your "principled opposition" on that regarding supporting Hillary?

 

[anatta]

African migrants heading for Europe die of hunger and thirst in Sahara desert

 

[blackascoal]

ROFL @ "creepy fascination w/Hillary".
Even Bernie nailed her on plutocratic big donor driven warmongering - it's obvious-
except to dump partisans like yourself

I notice you still fail to see/condemn past arab slave trading is much the same as what Libyan tribes do to current sub-Saharan "migrants"???

Where's your "principled opposition" on that regarding supporting Hillary?

;0) Bernie Sanders is a warmonger you idiot.

Thus, you're using a warmonger to condemn a warmonger for warmongering.

No interest in leaving you my droppings. :0) Thanks

 

[anatta]

;0) Bernie Sanders is a warmonger you idiot.
Thus, you're using a warmonger to condemn a warmonger for warmongering.
No interest in leaving you my droppings. :0) Thanks

keep your stupid shit. Bernie was part of a binding resolution where ALL the Senate( Sense of the Senate) that called for humanitarian reform in Libya under Qadaffi.

1. that wasn't regime change - and Bernie did not vote for Iraq like Clinton, nor organize "Friends of Syria" against Assad
2.Clinton agitated to make Qadaffi a military target -she wanted him assassinated
3.Clinton had the heavy hand in all of Libya -both the US US and international organizers.
4.Clinton was the deciding voice in the WH NSC - more then Powers and Rice for 'humanitarian war'
-Gates called her the 51% hat swayed Obama

https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRC_Email_1_296/HRCH1/DOC_0C05739752/C05739752.pdf
From: Jake Sullivan
Sant: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuiand, Victoria J
Subject: tidc todc on libya
this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but it shows S' Clinton
leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish, let me know what you
think. toria, who else might be able to add to this?
Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya
HRC
has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group
meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the
authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.
++

so much for Bernie's "warmongering"

 

[anatta]

Hillary Clinton,‘Smart Power’and a Dictator’s Fall

"The president was wary. The secretary of state was persuasive.
But the ouster of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi left Libya a failed
state and a terrorist haven."
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html?_r=1

This is the story of how a woman whose Senate vote for the Iraq war may have doomed her first presidential campaign nonetheless doubled down and pushed for military action in another Muslim country. As she once again seeks the White House, campaigning in part on her experience as the nation’s chief diplomat, an examination of the intervention she championed shows her at what was arguably her moment of greatest influence as secretary of state

 

[blackascoal]

keep your stupid shit. Bernie was part of a binding resolution where ALL the Senate( Sense of the Senate) that called for humanitarian reform in Libya under Qadaffi.

1. that wasn't regime change - and Bernie did not vote for Iraq like Clinton, nor organize "Friends of Syria" against Assad
2.Clinton agitated to make Qadaffi a military target -she wanted him assassinated
3.Clinton had the heavy hand in all of Libya -both the US US and international organizers.
4.Clinton was the deciding voice in the WH NSC - more then Powers and Rice for 'humanitarian war'
-Gates called her the 51% hat swayed Obama

https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRC_Email_1_296/HRCH1/DOC_0C05739752/C05739752.pdf
From: Jake Sullivan
Sant: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuiand, Victoria J
Subject: tidc todc on libya
this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but it shows S' Clinton
leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish, let me know what you
think. toria, who else might be able to add to this?
Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya
HRC
has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group
meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the
authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.
++

so much for Bernie's "warmongering"

Without my droppings, your investigative skills ain't (eb) much.

Bernie Sanders’ Regime Change Contradiction

On the campaign, Sanders has voiced his opposition to the policy of regime change…

USA Today: Sanders says Clinton is 'too much into regime change'
CNN: Bernie Sanders: I'm not a fan of regime changes

…But Sanders’ record is consistently with Hillary’s on these issues:

In 1998, Sanders voted to reaffirm that the policy of the United States towards Saddam Hussein should be regime change. He voted for the Iraq Liberation Act, *which authorized the US to provide assistance to groups fighting against Hussein. And he personally called Saddam Hussein “a brutal and illegitimate dictator who should be removed from office, and his capability to make weapons of mass destruction must be eliminated. In order to do that, we must develop a political strategy and support the democratic forces in Iraq who are prepared to overthrow him.”

In 2011, Sanders co-sponsored a resolution that called on Muammar Gadhafi to “resign his position and permit a peaceful transition to democracy” in Libya and urged the “possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory” to protect the Libyan people.

PolitiFact: Hillary Clinton says Bernie Sanders voted for regime change in Libya | MOSTLY TRUE

In 2012, Sanders voiced his support for arming Syrian rebels against Bashar Al-Assad in order to remove him from power in Syria and still supports removing Assad.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/brie...bernie-sanders-regime-change-contradiction-2/

Bernie Sanders Voting Record Antithetical To His Purported Anti-War Stance
In spite of claims of being antiwar, his “hawkish” support of Clinton’s military actions in the 1999 Kosovo War caused one of his advisers to quit. When antiwar activists occupied Sanders’ office in 1999 because of that support of Clinton’s war policies, he had them arrested.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/bernie...ical-to-his-purported-anti-war-stance/208066/

I know, Fox didn't tell you that. :0) go away dummy.

 

[Rune]

keep your stupid shit. Bernie was part of a binding resolution where ALL the Senate( Sense of the Senate) that called for humanitarian reform in Libya under Qadaffi.

1. that wasn't regime change - and Bernie did not vote for Iraq like Clinton, nor organize "Friends of Syria" against Assad
2.Clinton agitated to make Qadaffi a military target -she wanted him assassinated
3.Clinton had the heavy hand in all of Libya -both the US US and international organizers.
4.Clinton was the deciding voice in the WH NSC - more then Powers and Rice for 'humanitarian war'
-Gates called her the 51% hat swayed Obama

https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRC_Email_1_296/HRCH1/DOC_0C05739752/C05739752.pdf
From: Jake Sullivan
Sant: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuiand, Victoria J
Subject: tidc todc on libya
this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but it shows S' Clinton
leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish, let me know what you
think. toria, who else might be able to add to this?
Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya
HRC
has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group
meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the
authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.
++

so much for Bernie's "warmongering"

Give it up you flaming bag of dogshit.

NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOUR LIBYA FANTASY YOU FUCKING OXYGEN BANDIT.

 

[anatta]

Without my droppings, your investigative skills ain't (eb) much.

ROFL- it's a FUNDRAISING SITE for the Clinton campaign..lol..are you that stupid you are going to compare
Clinton's OWN EMAIL,and the NYTimes articles on Clinton to her own FUNDRAISING site?
My god -you really are that far gone as a partisan to be using Fundraisers language.

Bernie Sanders’ Regime Change Contradiction

On the campaign, Sanders has voiced his opposition to the policy of regime change…


In 1998, Sanders voted to reaffirm that the policy of the United States towards Saddam Hussein should be regime change. He voted for the Iraq Liberation Act, *which authorized the US to provide assistance to groups fighting against Hussein. And he personally called Saddam Hussein “a brutal and illegitimate dictator who should be removed from office, and his capability to make weapons of mass destruction must be eliminated. In order to do that, we must develop a political strategy and support the democratic forces in Iraq who are prepared to overthrow him.”

it's yet another sense of the Senate with unanimous consent. That is NOT an AUMF to use force like Hillary voted for (and Bernie did not)

In 2011, Sanders co-sponsored a resolution that called on Muammar Gadhafi to “resign his position and permit a peaceful transition to democracy” in Libya and urged the “possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory” to protect the Libyan people.

once more.the same thing: a Unanimous Sense of the Senate
calling for human rights by Gaddafi with a possible "No Fly". Did the No Fly also condone bombing? of course not..Clinton on the other hand called for all out regime change/ bombing/and "military targeting" of Qadaffi.

Are you seriously conflating these 'feel good' sense of the Senate votes ( all unanimous consent) to hard policy directives Clinton shepherd thru the WH NSC?.
My God. you have no clue about actual warmaking, and the usual Senate blandishments

I know, Fox didn't tell you that. :0) go away dummy.

you don't understand unanimous consent symbolic votes are no brianers.
When the rubber meets the road and policy decisions must be made -Clinton was for evry war she ever had a chance to prosecute.

Nor do you address Libya and the aftermath because you don't understand how Clinton's policies
led to African migrants being starved,beaten, and stolen from by ruthless Libyan militas/tribal
into leaky boats where they drowned by the 10's of thousands.
This was long after the 2011 war but in plenty of time to see for the 2016 past election.These are black Africans

That's Clinton's doing -not Bernie's

 

[anatta]

Give it up you flaming bag of dogshit.
NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOUR LIBYA FANTASY YOU FUCKING OXYGEN BANDIT.

It's telling your so called liberal humanitarianism doesn't care about mass drownings, endless civil war, and rampant terrorism spread from Libya
You're an ignorant clam-digger, but at least you aren't an intellectually dishonest persona like BAC.
You get credit for that little bit.

 

[Rune]

It's telling your so called liberal humanitarianism doesn't care about mass drownings, endless civil war, and rampant terrorism spread from Libya
You're an ignorant clam-digger, but at least you aren't an intellectually dishonest persona like BAC.
You get credit for that little bit.

If I am ignorant you are mentally retarded

 

[anatta]

If I am ignorant you are mentally retarded

 

[anatta]

I've beaten back the interventionists, the apologists,the conflationers,and the minimizers and the partisans on Libya for so long it's become 2nd nature.

Obama said "If only Cameron put boots in" -knowing full well no NATO nation was going to put boots into Libya afterwards (2011).

Hillary dismissed it with "Smart Power" and "we tried to build a democracy" knowing full well Libya is tribal-
and fractured by geography as well.
Libya under the brief reign of the NTC only cared about releasing the 'beasts from the east'.

The interventionists wanted the UN in as 'peacekeepers' - but there was no law to keep muchless
separate the factions.

Now this crap about Bernie being a "warmonger" because he voted with a unanimous consent Senate on some non-binding resolutions. It's all they got.

Meanwhile Libya continues to devolve into hell on earth. Everybody blames everyone else for it's failure-
but the ACTORS - Clinton/Obama/Cameron and Sarcozy - are the ones that did it.

"Success has a millions parents, but failure is an orphan" ..
The Albrights and the Clinton's and the Obama's want to obscure the truth with lies and silly comparisons..
I'm not going to let them do it as long as I can breathe and fight back against the revisionists.

 

[Rune]

^ legend in his own mind

 

[anatta]

^ legend in his own mind