Jim Henson Company breaks ties with Chick-fil-A over gay marriage stance

Boston mayor’s letter to Chick-fil-A: Stay out of Boston!

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout...-fil-menino-dan-cathy-201952237--finance.html

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Haiku hit the nail on the head. This is why I refuse to patronize known right wing corporations - they donate big $ to get their way.

But you don't mind left wing corporations donating money to get their way do you?

Especially these religious fruitcakes. Guarantee this guy donates money all the time to politicians and pacs that work and legislate to deprive gays of their civil rights.

Not with my money.

The end.

Queers aren't being denied civil rights. Hell, most don't even see marriage as a big issue for them.
 
It changes the definition of marriage. It hurts children which are the backbone of our society. Marriage always has been a child centered institution. Homo marriage would change it to an adult centered institution. That would harm children. Now your default will be that I am making some "religious" claim about marriage. So let's just get that straw man out of the way right now. Here are five non religious reasons for why homo marriage is a bad thing for children because it redefines marriage. So if you support homo marriage, you must hate children.

1 The essential public purpose of marriage is to attach mothers and fathers to their children and to one another.
2 Man/woman marriage allows children to know and be known by their biological parents. Same sex marriage separates children from at least one parent.
3 Man/woman marriage sets the foundation for children to have the same biological, legal and care-giving parents. Same sex marriage separates these functions among different people.
4 Man/woman marriage provides children with access to their genetic, cultural and social heritage.
5 Even though it is not always possible, children have the best life chances when they are raised by their biological married parents.

The reason leftists are pushing homo marriage isn't because they care about equality for homo's. It is because they want to finish the job on the family unit that welfare started. They want to make children unconnected to their family so that the natural human desire to belong to something forces them to turn to the government.
Utter nonsense.


You do realize we have population issues? Unfortunately, idiots have lots of kids. Intelligent couples have 1 or 2.

Doesn't bode well for the future
 
Oh, the irony...


"I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about."
Says the moron president of Chick fil A, as he defines marriage.
 
I'm of the opinion that people use a few obscure passages in the Bible to justify bigotry, in much the same way that most religions have been used throughout the years to justify agendas that have little or nothing to do w/ their origins.

I don't know how any logical human can read what Christ actually spoke about and not conclude that he was about love & tolerance, and not about casting harsh judgments on homosexuals or homosexuality. For many Christians, homosexuality is at the top of their agenda. How did that come about? If I never read the Bible, I would expect to open the NT, and hear Christ condemning homosexuals with every other phrase.
 
I'm of the opinion that people use a few obscure passages in the Bible to justify bigotry, in much the same way that most religions have been used throughout the years to justify agendas that have little or nothing to do w/ their origins.

I don't know how any logical human can read what Christ actually spoke about and not conclude that he was about love & tolerance, and not about casting harsh judgments on homosexuals or homosexuality. For many Christians, homosexuality is at the top of their agenda. How did that come about? If I never read the Bible, I would expect to open the NT, and hear Christ condemning homosexuals with every other phrase.

you're confused as usual. the issue with most christians isn't about condemning the people, rather, about condemning the sin. and the bible is very clear on that point.

thus....if you want to parade around the notion that christians are bigots for not supporting gay marriage, then you are calling god/christ/holy spirit a bigot.

that is bigoted of you.
 
you're confused as usual. the issue with most christians isn't about condemning the people, rather, about condemning the sin. and the bible is very clear on that point.

thus....if you want to parade around the notion that christians are bigots for not supporting gay marriage, then you are calling god/christ/holy spirit a bigot.

that is bigoted of you.

The unfortunate reality is that homosexuals ARE condemned by many Christians. Not allowing them equal rights is in spirit a form of that condemnation, and there are certainly other, much more overt expressions of that.

And I'm not one who believes that homosexuals "choose" their orientation. God created them the way they are, and they - like everyone - should be celebrated as such...as one of God's perfect creations. How could a timeless, omniscient & perfect being create otherwise?
 
Then what about those couples who are unable to have children or choose not to have them?

What about them? Marriage isnt limited to heterosexual couples because they all procreate, but is instead so limited because they are the only couples who procreate.


In addition, within limits, a statute generally does not fail rational basis review on the grounds of over- or under-inclusiveness; “[a] classification does not fail rational-basis review because ‘it is not made with mathematical nicety or because in practice it results in some inequity.’”...And the link between opposite-sex marriage and procreation is not defeated by the fact that the law allows opposite-sex marriage regardless of a couple’s willingness or ability to procreate. The facts that all opposite-sex couples do not have children and that single-sex couples raise children and have children with third party assistance or through adoption do not mean that limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples lacks a rational basis. Such over- or under-inclusiveness does not defeat finding a rational basis....
http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/content/pdf/759341opn.pdf

Petitioners note that the state does not impose upon heterosexual married couples a condition that they have a proved capacity or declared willingness to procreate, posing a rhetorical demand that this court must read such condition into the statute if same-sex marriages are to be prohibited. Even assuming that such a condition would be neither unrealistic nor offensive under the Griswold rationale, the classification is no more than theoretically imperfect. We are reminded, however, that "abstract symmetry" is not demanded by the Fourteenth Amendment
http://www.cas.umt.edu/phil/faculty/Walton/bakrvnel.htm
 
eler;1045479]The unfortunate reality is that homosexuals ARE condemned by many Christians. Not allowing them equal rights is in spirit a form of that condemnation, and there are certainly other, much more overt expressions of that.

you're confusing secular government with religious beliefs. there are many people, not just christians btw, who do not believe same sex people should be married. that doesn't mean they condemn the person. as to equal rights, i am in full agreement with that. however, i disagree that it is their condemnation of homosexual relationships that is bigotry. does bigotry exist? yes it does. simply disagreeing with another belief does not make you a bigot. if that is how you believe, then you are in fact a bigot by your own definition.

are people who do not support polygamy - bigots?

And I'm not one who believes that homosexuals "choose" their orientation. God created them the way they are, and they - like everyone - should be celebrated as such...as one of God's perfect creations. How could a timeless, omniscient & perfect being create otherwise?

you're entitled to your belief onceler. and i doubt anyone on this planet will ever have the definitive answer on the subject. the gay people i know are certainly far from any consensus on the matter. they each have their own experience and reason for being gay. i don't agree with your "god created them the way they are".

if you want to talk more, PM me. i would have to give up some personal info to explain. i will try and stick to the common topic we are discussing though.
 
What about them? Marriage isnt limited to heterosexual couples because they all procreate, but is instead so limited because they are the only couples who procreate.


In addition, within limits, a statute generally does not fail rational basis review on the grounds of over- or under-inclusiveness; “[a] classification does not fail rational-basis review because ‘it is not made with mathematical nicety or because in practice it results in some inequity.’”...And the link between opposite-sex marriage and procreation is not defeated by the fact that the law allows opposite-sex marriage regardless of a couple’s willingness or ability to procreate. The facts that all opposite-sex couples do not have children and that single-sex couples raise children and have children with third party assistance or through adoption do not mean that limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples lacks a rational basis. Such over- or under-inclusiveness does not defeat finding a rational basis....
http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/content/pdf/759341opn.pdf

Petitioners note that the state does not impose upon heterosexual married couples a condition that they have a proved capacity or declared willingness to procreate, posing a rhetorical demand that this court must read such condition into the statute if same-sex marriages are to be prohibited. Even assuming that such a condition would be neither unrealistic nor offensive under the Griswold rationale, the classification is no more than theoretically imperfect. We are reminded, however, that "abstract symmetry" is not demanded by the Fourteenth Amendment
http://www.cas.umt.edu/phil/faculty/Walton/bakrvnel.htm

You responded to my answer, which was a response to someone else's comment; so why do you keep the conversation within the confines of the exchange? :D
 
that is not the definition of bigotry.

try again and this time, use the actual definition.
If you insist
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bigot

one who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ
.

In today's climate of religious nutjobs that politicize their bigotted opinions, I find it interesting that gay marriage would aid in another pet issue of the nutjobs....abortion.

Gay couples would be prime candidates for adoption of unwanted babies.
 
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