It's Going Down In Wisconsin

Wow, imagine that. Dems don't like the way things are going so they run and hide. Meanwhile teachers ignoring the students they are supposed to be teaching, so they can demand those students parents pay for all of their health care and other benefits.
 
Wow, imagine that. Dems don't like the way things are going so they run and hide. Meanwhile teachers ignoring the students they are supposed to be teaching, so they can demand those students parents pay for all of their health care and other benefits.

Boy, you sound just like Glen Beck did last night. I am disappointed :( I actually turned the idiot on and regretted it, he is a total HAM!!!!!! Glasses and all! What an actor, although it is mostly B grade acting.

These people have a right to fight for their bargaining rights. It isn't about the money, believe it or not, it is about the right to have a say in their lives and their job. Students are there protesting with their teachers. Isn't America great!

They can make these days up at a later time, the children are learning about civics! A great lesson for them.
 
Boy, you sound just like Glen Beck did last night. I am disappointed :( I actually turned the idiot on and regretted it, he is a total HAM!!!!!! Glasses and all! What an actor, although it is mostly B grade acting.

These people have a right to fight for their bargaining rights. It isn't about the money, believe it or not, it is about the right to have a say in their lives and their job. Students are there protesting with their teachers. Isn't America great!

They can make these days up at a later time, the children are learning about civics! A great lesson for them.

I could care less about Beck. The teachers accomplish nothing by ditching school. Everyone knows their position on the bill. Everyone knows they don't want to give up the right to fuck over taxpayers.

But the politicians running and hiding is fucking pathetic.

The children are not learning about civics. They are learning that their teachers enjoy throwing tantrums.

sorry, but they have the ability to bargain for wages. If they think their other bene's are out of line, they can bargain for higher wages to compensate.

Bottom line, for far too long the public unions have gone without contributing to their health care and pensions in any meaningful way. They SAY they are willing to negotiate NOW that they are between the rock and hard spot. I lived in WI for ten years. I am very familiar with the attitude in ultra-liberal Madison. It is high time this happened.
 
I could care less about Beck. The teachers accomplish nothing by ditching school. Everyone knows their position on the bill. Everyone knows they don't want to give up the right to fuck over taxpayers.

But the politicians running and hiding is fucking pathetic.

The children are not learning about civics. They are learning that their teachers enjoy throwing tantrums.

sorry, but they have the ability to bargain for wages. If they think their other bene's are out of line, they can bargain for higher wages to compensate.

Bottom line, for far too long the public unions have gone without contributing to their health care and pensions in any meaningful way. They SAY they are willing to negotiate NOW that they are between the rock and hard spot. I lived in WI for ten years. I am very familiar with the attitude in ultra-liberal Madison. It is high time this happened.


I'd be more inclined to agree with you regarding public sector unions if the Wisconsin Republicans decided to impact all public sector unions equally instead of exempting those public sector unions that are not composed of traditionally Democratic voters: police, fire fighters and state troopers.

It's OK for those unions to not have to contribute to their healthcare or pensions in any meaningful way but not the teachers? That's bullshit. This is a fairly transparent effort not to punish public sector union members generally but public sector union members most likely to vote Democrat.
 
I'd be more inclined to agree with you regarding public sector unions if the Wisconsin Republicans decided to impact all public sector unions equally instead of exempting those public sector unions that are not composed of traditionally Democratic voters: police, fire fighters and state troopers.

It's OK for those unions to not have to contribute to their healthcare or pensions in any meaningful way but not the teachers? That's bullshit. This is a fairly transparent effort not to punish public sector union members generally but public sector union members most likely to vote Democrat.

Please link us to your data on the police, fire fighters and state troopers unions voting habits.

Next... they were exempt because it would make it more palatable to voters. Every time someone tries to modify public unions, the left shouts out the standard 'but they are first responders' and that little line works to squash reform pretty consistently. Walker knew that. So he is taking it piecemeal. Getting what he can done first. Then looking at the rest later.
 
Please link us to your data on the police, fire fighters and state troopers unions voting habits.

Nope. If you have something that says I'm wrong please provide it.


Next... they were exempt because it would make it more palatable to voters. Every time someone tries to modify public unions, the left shouts out the standard 'but they are first responders' and that little line works to squash reform pretty consistently. Walker knew that. So he is taking it piecemeal. Getting what he can done first. Then looking at the rest later.

Bullshit.
 
Nope. If you have something that says I'm wrong please provide it.

Lets see... majority of unions donations go to dems. Majority of unions members vote dems. Yeah... we should just take your word for it that these particular unions in WI don't vote Dem.

Bottom line, you are full of shit.


Bullshit.

LMAO.... dumbass.... you just spout off ignorant shit because you don't like it.

I know Scott Walker personally. We were at Marquette together and in several organizations together. I know EXACTLY what his intentions are. Several of our mutual friends from Marquette worked on his campaign as well.

You just are pissy because a Rep figured out that taking things piecemeal would work far better than trying to make a whole sale change. You and I both know that the Dems use the exact line I stated very effectively and that they are PISSED that it is currently unavailable to them.
 
Walker is a scum bag...I'm not surprised the freak is friends with a right wing scum bag...I guess those are 'libertarian' tenets...crush labor...

Walker’s Renewed War on Workers


Just as he did as Milwaukee County executive, Scott Walker, now the governor, has chosen to bypass labor negotiations and include major wage and benefits concessions—and a drastic attack on long-standing principles of employee relations—in his budget repair bill.

Typically, the executive honors labor agreements that have been negotiated with unions.

But Walker is not a typical executive.

He’s not negotiating. Instead, Walker said if necessary he would literally call in the National Guard.

As Milwaukee County executive, Walker submitted two budgets that included tens of millions of wage and benefits concessions that had not been negotiated with the unions that represent county employees. Walker’s 2010 budget included $32 million of concessions that were not included in a tentative agreement his own labor negotiator had struck with unions at the time Walker had proposed his budget.

Walker’s 2010 budget was so unfair that an examiner for the Wisconsin Employment Relations Commission declared that Walker had bargained in bad faith.

But that hasn’t deterred Walker from using the same tactic now as governor.

The nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau (LFB) concluded that the state would end the year with a surplus, so there is no need for a budget repair bill. Walker disputes those numbers, so he has submitted a budget repair bill that would strip collective bargaining rights from most state workers. Walker has excluded employees whose unions endorsed him in the 2010 election.

Typically, changes to bargaining rights would mean a change to state statutes.

Instead, Walker is using his unnecessary budget repair bill to drive a stake through the heart of Wisconsin’s social contract that has maintained stable labor relations with public employee unions for decades. Walker is trying to severely limit the rights of public employees in addition to requesting that they make wage and benefits concessions. But Walker’s demand for public employees to pick up more of their expenses would have a negative effect on the state’s economy by decreasing wages of middle-class workers; weakening their purchasing power at local businesses, putting more than 9,000 private sector jobs in jeopardy; and reducing property taxes statewide by an estimated $46 million, according to a recent study.

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Somehow I don't think you were saying this is what Democracy looks like about Tea Party rallies.

EDIT: And Ken, where are all the brothers? I saw two black people in all the photos. Can't say I saw a hispanic or asian though I might have missed it. Why such racial segregation? I know you had cartoons for the Tea Party saying there weren't enough brothers there. You got any now?
 
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It's over reach on Walker's part. There will definately be a political back lash on this. It's stupid too. The GOP gained control of the Wisconsin State House AND the Governors office since god knows when and Walker has just made sure that it won't last long.
 
This Walker is really a slime ball...

Walker gins up ‘crisis’ to reward cronies

Wisconsin needs to be fiscally responsible.

There is no question that these are tough times, and they may require tough choices.

But Gov. Scott Walker is not making tough choices. He is making political choices, and they are designed not to balance budgets but to improve his political position and that of his party.

It is for this reason that the governor claims Wisconsin is in such deep financial trouble that Wisconsinites should view this as a crisis moment.

In fact, like just about every other state in the country, Wisconsin is managing in a weak economy. The difference is that Wisconsin is managing better -- or at least it had been managing better until Walker took over. Despite shortfalls in revenue following the economic downturn that hit its peak with the Bush-era stock market collapse, the state has balanced budgets, maintained basic services and high-quality schools, and kept employment and business development steadier than the rest of the country. It has managed so well, in fact, that the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau recently released a memo detailing how the state will end the 2009-2011 budget biennium with a budget surplus.

In its Jan. 31 memo to legislators on the condition of the state’s budget, the Fiscal Bureau determined that the state will end the year with a balance of $121.4 million.

To the extent that there is an imbalance -- Walker claims there is a $137 million deficit -- it is not because of a drop in revenues or increases in the cost of state employee contracts, benefits or pensions. It is because Walker and his allies pushed through $140 million in new spending for special-interest groups in January. If the Legislature were simply to rescind Walker’s new spending schemes -- or delay their implementation until they are offset by fresh revenues -- the “crisis” would not exist.

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That's why we have elections. people voting republican in Wisconsin and many other states is in large part due to a fed up attitude about over taxation and the socialist bend of today's democrats.
 
That's why we have elections. people voting republican in Wisconsin and many other states is in large part due to a fed up attitude about over taxation and the socialist bend of today's democrats.
That's right and then they elect Republican business men who over reach and implement laissez faire policies that have utterly no respect for peoples rights while enriching their cadre of buddies which forces the public right back to the Democrats.

Walker could have used his political capital to extract concessions from the public service unions, now he's ensured he'll be a one term Governor and will probably ensure a Democratic controlled State House after the next election too.

I'd call that political ineptitude.
 
That's right and then they elect Republican business men who over reach and implement laissez faire policies that have utterly no respect for peoples rights while enriching their cadre of buddies which forces the public right back to the Democrats.

Walker could have used his political capital to extract concessions from the public service unions, now he's ensured he'll be a one term Governor and will probably ensure a Democratic controlled State House after the next election too.

I'd call that political ineptitude.

Isn't he less than two months into a four year term?
 
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