“It’s a Race Against Heat, and Humanity Is Losing”

archives said:
Won’t be for economic reasons they are returning, nor will the State do much to accommodate them economically, climate is the motivator, they just can’t stand the heat and humidity, all those snowbirds will forget their annual trek
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spoken like someone who doesn't have to roll the dice on whether to eat one month or buy their medicine........
 
archives said:
“A recent study from the Climate Impact Lab finds that by 2100, heat alone could kill as many people as now succumb to heart disease, humanity’s biggest killer.”

“While temperatures can vary from one year to another, the trend is clear: Nine of the 10 hottest years on record have happened during the 21st century.”

“Even the Cold Places Are Hot Now. The Arctic is warming faster than the rest of the world. Parts of Siberia experienced temperatures 10C above average in May”

“Oceans Take In More Heat. While temperature records on land usually grab most of the headlines, Earth’s most dramatic warming is happening at sea. The oceans’ ability to capture and store carbon dioxide stopped keeping pace with emissions in the 1990s. A report published in June concluded that the oceans’ sponge-like capacity will keep diminishing”

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-race-against-heat/

But, but, but, China ain’t doing anything, Gore flys in a superjet, and of course, “temperature can’t be measured,” anything but recognizing the reality, man made climate is real and we are seeing the results daily
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Bullshit.
 
Cypress said:
We've basically known since the 1990s that human emissions of heat-trapping GHGs were going to warm the planet.

Exxon scientists knew in the 1970s.

Republicans have intentionally allowed climate change become an existential threat.

It's a shame that Republicans are going to make Florida unlivable.
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I love the way you consistently trot out the same old hoary chestnuts. Arrhenius wrote a paper about it over 100 years ago ffs!!

Arrhenius did very little research in the fields of climatology and geophysics, and considered any work in these fields a hobby. His basic approach was to apply knowledge of basic scientific principles to make sense of existing observations, while hypothesizing a theory on the cause of the “Ice Age.” Later on, his geophysical work would serve as a catalyst for the work of others.

In 1895, Arrhenius presented a paper to the Stockholm Physical Society titled, “On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air upon the Temperature of the Ground.”

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/Arrhenius/arrhenius_2.php
 
serendipity said:
I love the way you consistently trot out the same old hoary chestnuts. Arrhenius wrote a paper about it over 100 years ago ffs!!

Arrhenius did very little research in the fields of climatology and geophysics, and considered any work in these fields a hobby. His basic approach was to apply knowledge of basic scientific principles to make sense of existing observations, while hypothesizing a theory on the cause of the “Ice Age.” Later on, his geophysical work would serve as a catalyst for the work of others.

In 1895, Arrhenius presented a paper to the Stockholm Physical Society titled, “On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air upon the Temperature of the Ground.”

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/Arrhenius/arrhenius_2.php
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You can scream and stomp your feet all you want.

But it doesn't change the fact you have been dead wrong for three decades.

Human emissions of heat-trapping GHGs are a major cause of global warming, and the problem is getting very serious.
 
cawacko said:
I would never live in Florida because of the humidity just as I would never live in New York (outside NYC) because it is fricking freezing and you’re in the middle of nowhere. That’s a miserable existence.

As far as people leaving Florida to go back to NY? I mean it could happen because nothing is static but at least at the moment, if I’m reading this correctly, Florida is the fastest growing state.

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/12/florida-fastest-growing-state.html
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And yet you live in an area characterized by the quote “the coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." Last time I was there was in May and it was cold, even Oracle Park is partially enclosed to address the weather. Not the “middle of nowhere,” remove the State Park, the largest Park in the US, and NY has close to the highest population density of any State

Sure Florida is growing, however, as I said, with the heat and humidity projected to continue and lengthen in decades to come you will see a just as quick exit. Already have snowbird friends who now only spend five months down south
 
Gondwanaland said:
The reading came from MAnatee Bay you clueless cunt.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/25/flo...r-101-degrees-fahrenheit-possible-record.html
this was the buoy
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=mnbf1

Here's the location of the buoy right in the middle of a protected shallow bay (you can even zoom in and see just how shallow the area is, as it has depths on it): https://www.usharbors.com/harbor/florida/manatee-creek-fl/map/#harbor-nav

Surrounding buoys in the actual ocean showed much lower temps.

How are you this fucking stupid?

You need any more sources shoved down your flapping cuntlips?
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Oh, so everyone else is lying because some obscure bay somewhere has cooler waters, besides, as your own source says, “the unique qualities of the area mean that it’s not really comparable to most water measurements”

https://apnews.com/article/record-h...imate-change-6414d44c6f120507d3ee37c059fb75cd
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story...t-miami-florida-keys-coral-reefs/70483921007/
https://apnews.com/article/florida-ocean-heat-climate-coral-record-bfc3010460eb077fc14d53a6f768931d
https://weather.com/news/climate/vi...lorida-causing-big-worries-both-now-and-later
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/07/25/water-temperatures-in-florida/70463489007/
https://www.tampabay.com/news/envir...rd-ocean-temperature-humidity-summer-weather/
https://www.reuters.com/business/en...-south-florida-hit-hot-tub-levels-2023-07-25/

So typical of flat Earthers, they find some circumstantial “evidence” somewhere and promote it to create a false paradigm
 
serendipity said:
Clueless cunt indeed, Arsecheese is totally impervious to either reason or empirical evidence.

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So typical of what I just said, they find some obscure nobody, “Jim Steele” is a recognized flat Earther who has only a masters degree in ecology and is not even a climate scientist, and promotes the guy’s views attempting to create “proof” the consensus on man made climate change is bogus
 
archives said:
And yet you live in an area characterized by the quote “the coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." Last time I was there was in May and it was cold, even Oracle Park is partially enclosed to address the weather. Not the “middle of nowhere,” remove the State Park, the largest Park in the US, and NY has close to the highest population density of any State

Sure Florida is growing, however, as I said, with the heat and humidity projected to continue and lengthen in decades to come you will see a just as quick exit. Already have snowbird friends who now only spend five months down south
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San Francisco does have cold summers but if you don’t like it you go can to the East Bay, Marin or Peninsula. Those locations are just minutes away. You don’t have that option in New York State. When it’s zero degrees in Syracuse or Buffalo you don’t drive five to ten minutes and have a huge delta in temperature.

Florida has always been humid and hot. This isn’t new. I’m not a scientist but the claims that states can pass legislation that will affect their states weather doesn’t pass the sniff test to me.
 
The real race should be against cold.

In 2019, cold temperatures killed nearly four times as many people as warm temperatures, according to a new study from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. Today, cold temperature deaths are most common in Europe, Central and East Asia, and North America.
https://www.thinkglobalhealth.org/article/hot-cold-and-deadly

9.43% of global deaths in the period 2000 to 2019 were related to ‘non-optimal temperatures’, with 8.52% and 0.91% of deaths related to cold and high temperatures, respectively.
https://medicalsciences.stackexchan...-more-people-worldwide-each-year-cold-or-heat

Excessive Heat Can Kill, But Extreme Cold Still Causes Many More Fatalities
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshua...-cold-causes-more-fatalities/?sh=1299f9c71d88

Study: Cold kills 20 times more people than heat

The study — published in the British journal The Lancet — analyzed data on more than 74 million deaths in 13 countries between 1985 and 2012. Of those, 5.4 million deaths were related to cold, while 311,000 were related to heat.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2015/05/20/cold-weather-deaths/27657269/

So, we are getting the usual kneejerk hysteria because it's hot at the moment. I guess the usual suspects can't let a manufactured crisis go to waste...
 
Hawkeye10 said:
In Washington it is still generally the Uniparty.
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It seems that way to you, Hawk, because you're looking at totally different issues.

People like yourself and people like myself have completely different priorities, not to mention values.

I see Republicans and Democrats at 180º polarity on the issues about which I care.

You see something different.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
It seems that way to you, Hawk, because you're looking at totally different issues.

People like yourself and people like myself have completely different priorities, not to mention values.

I see Republicans and Democrats at 180º polarity on the issues about which I care.

You see something different.
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I dont know where you are, I see you around now and then but I barely notice you.

I am an Old School Progressive....like Bret and Heather.
 
archives said:
“A recent study from the Climate Impact Lab finds that by 2100, heat alone could kill as many people as now succumb to heart disease, humanity’s biggest killer.”

“While temperatures can vary from one year to another, the trend is clear: Nine of the 10 hottest years on record have happened during the 21st century.”

“Even the Cold Places Are Hot Now. The Arctic is warming faster than the rest of the world. Parts of Siberia experienced temperatures 10C above average in May”

“Oceans Take In More Heat. While temperature records on land usually grab most of the headlines, Earth’s most dramatic warming is happening at sea. The oceans’ ability to capture and store carbon dioxide stopped keeping pace with emissions in the 1990s. A report published in June concluded that the oceans’ sponge-like capacity will keep diminishing”

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-race-against-heat/

But, but, but, China ain’t doing anything, Gore flys in a superjet, and of course, “temperature can’t be measured,” anything but recognizing the reality, man made climate is real and we are seeing the results daily
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Poor anchovies,

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Hawkeye10 said:
I am an Old School Progressive....like Bret and Heather.
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Ah, the ones who run the dry cleaners up on St. Botolph Street near Matthews Arena.
I haven't been there in ages. Not sure if it's still open.
I'll check next time I go to Symphony Hall which is nearby.

I had a few fights in Matthews Arena when I was a kid.
It was called The Boston Arena back then.
It was much smaller than the old Boston Garden which replaced the Arena in the 1920s as the Bruins home.

Then Northeastern University bought in the 1990s and remodeled and renamed it Matthews Arena,
all around the same time that the new Garden was built and the old one torn down.
Memories.

I wonder if Brett and Heather are still there.
Probably not.
They were definitely younger than I, but they'd still be retired by now, I'd guess.
They did a good job, though. I didn't know that they were old school progressives.
We never talked politics.

Then I started going to the Koreans because they were closer to where I lived.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Ah, the ones who run the dry cleaners up on St. Botolph Street near Matthews Arena.
I haven't been there in ages. Not sure if it's still open.
I'll check next time I go to Symphony Hall which is nearby.

I had a few fights in Matthews Arena when I was a kid.
It was called The Boston Arena back then.
It was much smaller than the old Boston Garden which replaced the Arena in the 1920s as the Bruins home.

Then Northeastern University bought in the 1990s and remodeled and renamed it Matthews Arena,
all around the same time that the new Garden was built and the old one torn down.
Memories.

I wonder if Brett and Heather are still there.
Probably not.
They were definitely younger than I, but they'd still be retired by now, I'd guess.
They did a good job, though. I didn't know that they were old school progressives.
We never talked politics.

Then I started going to the Koreans because they were closer to where I lived.
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Please dont waste my time.
 
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