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Was it me?
there is a burden here, considering operation crossfire hurricane.
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there is a burden here, considering operation crossfire hurricane.
Irrelevant
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Was it me?
highly relevant.
Only in your mind. It changes nothing on the chain of custody issue. Watch how that works out in any court of law.
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Was it me?
only in your mind is a completely biased and unreliable fbi ok.
Any defense will have to raise that reasonable doubt in court, won’t they? On THIS evidence, not anything that happened with your Hurricane thing.
If the court finds the evidence WAS tainted, it will be excluded. Otherwise, it will be admitted into evidence. That’s the way it works.
You believe a well-known liar. Okay then, Beulah, whatever you say. Oh, and this, from the same not-credible source:
Trump and his family watched the FBI search Mar-a-Lago via the property's security feed, says the former president's lawyer
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Nope, sorry.
Y-O-U made the claim the FBI trucked in boxes, it's up to Y-O-U to back up your claim with proof.
MAGA MAN
Let's go Brandon!
Your tactic here is to claim that a licensed attorney, an officer of the court in the state of Florid, is simply lying.
Me thinks that you're just too proud to admit that you lost this debate.
MAGA MAN
Let's go Brandon!
I haven't but if it pleases you to think you won, and you'll go away and stop making a fool of yourself, it's all good.
Of course someone standing in the parking lot would never be able to see if the FBI was taking boxes out of their trucks to plant in the residence.
Trump's lawyer spent the entire time the FBI was there in the parking lot. Are you now accusing Trump's lawyers of being in on it?
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
Well, I agree- THERE IS NO TELLING WHO ALL SAW THIS INFORMATION ALREADY.
Here is the deal, If he has shown any of these TOP SECRETS to Russia or any other country- THAT WOULD BE TREASON.
Some Treasonous Crimes- such as sharing nuclear information etc. has a penalty of death!
Donnie may be in that kind of trouble already as we speak!
How Ironic! Here Donnie was trying to get his own VP lynched, and may be looking now to having a noose around his own neck!
Wtf is this shit? The FBI forgot to get something in June so they come back like Gangbusters in August? They were left alone to take or plant whatever they wanted in June and Trump
was fully cooperating. Trying to paint Trump like some kind of Klaus Fuchs? That dog ain't gonna hunt.
"Two months before his Florida home was raided by the FBI, former President Donald Trump secretly received a grand jury subpoena for classified documents belonging to the National Archives, and voluntarily cooperated by turning over responsive evidence, surrendering security surveillance footage and allowing federal agents and a senior Justice Department lawyer to tour his private storage locker, according to a half dozen people familiar with the incident.
While the cooperation was mostly arranged by his lawyers, Trump personally surprised the DOJ National Security Division prosecutor and three FBI agents who came to his Mar-a-Lago compound on June 3, greeting them as they came to pick up a small number of documents compliant with the subpoena, the sources told Just the News, speaking only on condition of anonymity because the visit was covered by grand jury secrecy.
The subpoena requested any remaining documents Trump possessed with any classification markings, even if they involved photos of foreign leaders, correspondence or mementos from his presidency.
Secret Service agents were also present and facilitated the visit, officials said.
Trump signaled his full cooperation, telling the agents and prosecutor, "Look, whatever you need let us know," according to two eyewitnesses. The federal team was surprised by the president's invitation and asked for an immediate favor: to see the 6-foot-by-10-foot storage locker where his clothes, shoes, documents and mementos from his presidency were stored at the compound.
Given Trump's instruction, the president's lawyers complied and allowed the search by the FBI before the entourage left cordially. Five days later, DOJ officials sent a letter to Trump's lawyers asking them to secure the storage locker with more than the lock they had seen. The Secret Service installed a more robust security lock to comply.
Around the same time, the Trump Organization, which owns Mar-a-Lago, received a request for surveillance video footage covering the locker and volunteered the footage to federal authorities, sources disclosed.
The disclosure Wednesday to Just the News raised immediate new questions in legal and congressional circles about the necessity for the subsequent raid, including whether the judge who approved the warrant knew of the earlier cooperation.
“The more we learn, the more confusing this gets,” George Washington University Law professor Jonathan Turley told Fox News program Hannity. “….Did they relay this history to the magistrate? That, according to these sources, that the president had cooperated.
”I mean, the idea that he was subject to a subpoena, complied with a subpoena, didn't challenge it, voluntarily showed the storage room to the agents, followed their advice, secured it to meet their demands. All of that is hardly a basis for saying now we need to send in 40 FBI agents on a on a raid,” he added. “I mean, if the subpoena worked the first time, then presumably a second subpoena would work the second time if there were remaining documents.”
Rep. Claudia Tenney, R-N.Y., told Just the News that Trump mentioned to her Tuesday night the prior cooperation, and that she viewed the raid as an effort at nullifying his future run for the presidency in 2024 if he chooses.
“Look, this is exactly what people, the public is seeing: a two-tiered justice system. This is impeachment 4,” she said, citing Trump‘s prior two impeachments and the January 6 hearings that preceded the raid.
The flurry of cooperation in June came months after Trump had already returned about 15 boxes of documents, many of them classified, at the request of the National Archives. Government officials have said the documents were mistakenly boxed up by the General Services Administration along with Trump's personal possessions from the White House and shipped to Mar-a -Lago.
After the subpoena was delivered in late May, federal authorities said they suspected there were more classified materials still left at Mar-a-Lago, and arranged the June 3 visit.
After mid-June, the government had no other official contacts with the president's lawyers until agents showed up unannounced on Monday and executed the search warrant, ousting the president's lawyers and staff and spending nine hours collecting evidence. Sources told Just the News they collected about 12 boxes of evidence.
U.S. officials who confirmed the June 3 voluntary visit and subpoena compliance, refused to say whether U.S. Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart was apprised of the full extent of Trump's compliance when he was asked to sign the unprecedented search warrant last Friday.
The FBI then waited three days after getting the judge's approval before executing the warrant, one of many oddities in the timetable.
Some officials said the extra time was used to assemble a team to raid Mar-a-Lago in the most incognito manner so the public wouldn't be alerted and while the former president was out of town.
The officials told Just the News the search warrant was sought after the FBI obtained some witness information and other evidence suggesting some classified documents may have still remained on the property after June, stored in locations such as a private safe Trump had in his residence, and that some of the storage locations may have been accessed in 2022.
The new revelations came the same day that new questions arose about Reinhart, the judge in the case.
Just the News obtained a court document showing that Reinhart — just six weeks before signing the warrant — recused himself from Trump's lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and other Democrats in the Russia collusion scandal, citing concerns he couldn't be impartial.
Reinhart, appointed in 2018 as a federal magistrate in West Palm Beach, Fla., filed the recusal document on June 22, a few weeks after presiding over the start of the civil litigation.
"The undersigned Magistrate Judge, to whom the above-styled cause has been assigned, hereby recuses himself and refers the case to the Clerk of Court for reassignment pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 455," Reinhart wrote in his order of recusal in the Trump v. Clinton case."
Warrant from a magistrate that has anti-Trump bias? Not even a criminal magistrate? I think both that Magistrate and Merrick Garland are people that are compromised, that's why they
wanted to appoint them, because they can abuse them or else all the dirty little secrets will come to light.
Garland looked scared to death when he made his statement.
https://justthenews.com/politics-po...y-subpoena-spring-voluntarily-cooperated-home
Who's to say the FBI didn't send their expert safecracker guy in there to break into the safe on camera so they can finally get that big "gotcha", then subpoena the surveillance?
I know 1 thing's for sure: They were one of the few who knew where all that stuff was.
I know another thing, after the fakery in Michigan, and Russiagate, and Crossfire Hurricane, the FBI is not to be trusted.
Any way you try to slice it, this pizza was baked for political purposes, and all cheering this thing on are cheering for the end of real law and order of any type in America.
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Stringfellow Hawk
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so you can't no surprise there
Stringfellow Hawk
Member
Of course someone standing in the parking lot would never be able to see if the FBI was taking boxes out of their trucks to plant in the residence.
I am accusing the FBI of bias, this is a Garland Vendetta, we are seeing first hand what a piece of shit Garland really was and is
Yakuda
Verified User
From what? Trump will return everything and everyone will go their separate ways. Please don't tell me you're back to believing he's going to jail. Lmfao
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
Well, I agree- THERE IS NO TELLING WHO ALL SAW THIS INFORMATION ALREADY.
Here is the deal, If he has shown any of these TOP SECRETS to Russia or any other country- THAT WOULD BE TREASON.
Some Treasonous Crimes- such as sharing nuclear information etc. has a penalty of death!
Donnie may be in that kind of trouble already as we speak!
How Ironic! Here Donnie was trying to get his own VP lynched, and may be looking now to having a noose around his own neck!
I think they have something on Garland, that's why they were so hot to appoint him. Leverage to make him comply. Did you see how scared he looked while making that statement?
Althea
Althea told me...
Wtf is this shit? The FBI forgot to get something in June so they come back like Gangbusters in August? They were left alone to take or plant whatever they wanted in June and Trump
was fully cooperating. Trying to paint Trump like some kind of Klaus Fuchs? That dog ain't gonna hunt.
LOL. You're so cute when you're drunk.
Lie
FBI didn't 'forget' anything. trump's lawyers told the FBI that they handed over everything that trump had stolen.
Jarod blew the whistle on that lie.