It was the state attorney's office, not local authorities

someone is, my money is on the police report lying

So there is no way that a 17 year old kid, who's been suspended from school (at least twice} and who's brother was asking about him swinging at a bus driver; would ever act thug like and try anything.
Is that what you're saying Don?
Did your crystal ball tell you that Zimmerman just has to be guilty; because Martin is black?
 
did i say martin was? i asked what law says you can't follow "A" suspicious person. you're claiming zimmerman did not have the "right" to follow him. so again, tell me the law that says zimmerman could not follow him if HE thought he was acting suspicious. you claimed it was solely because he was black, then you used his words which showed it was not just that.

stop jumping the gun before you know all the facts. you did the same thing in the loughner matter and ate serious crow for it.

You're nuts. This thread was going pretty well until you just derailed it with your insults. You're totally incapable of debate when someone goes against your opinion, you default to name calling and make specious claims.
 
white or black, he chased after the unarmed kid and shot and killed him after being told that, 'we do not need you to do that'

i have always maintained that we need more information, not leaks, but real proven information

the color of dried blood is dark reddish brown, not red, that is the color of fresh blood

medical care was offered and declined

so why all of the conflicting statements

once again, you're passing off speculation as fact. why is that? you don't know for sure if he was treated at the scene. you don't know for sure if he was chasing him when the altercation took place.

you claim we need more facts, yet you spout speculation as fact and have already convicted him.
 
You're nuts. This thread was going pretty well until you just derailed it with your insults. You're totally incapable of debate when someone goes against your opinion, you default to name calling and make specious claims.

what? where did i call you a name or insult? what specious claims did i make. cite.
 
From the article you cited:

"In the video an officer is seen pausing to look at the back of Zimmerman's head, but no abrasions or blood can be seen in the video and he did not check into the emergency room following the police questioning."

so summoning emergency aid workers to the scene, but not going to the ER afterwards is NOT seeking medical attention????
 
you asked me for zimmerman's claim...i gave it to you. the rest has nothing to do with zimmerman's claim....it is just more evidence on what MIGHT have actually happened. unlike you, i'm not jumping the gun convicting him and making all kinds of wild accusations.

You're doing a damn good job of giving Zimmerman more leeway for his actions than you're giving Martin.
 
You're doing a damn good job of giving Zimmerman more leeway for his actions than you're giving Martin.

not true. i said zimmerman should have stopped following him once the police said they were on their way and for him to back off. you're just getting upset because i'm countering your speculation that you're trying to pass off as fact.
 
white or black, he chased after the unarmed kid and shot and killed him after being told that, 'we do not need you to do that'

i have always maintained that we need more information, not leaks, but real proven information

the color of dried blood is dark reddish brown, not red, that is the color of fresh blood

medical care was offered and declined

so why all of the conflicting statements

Why are you only posting the parts that you FEEL show guilt?

white or black, he chased after the unarmed kid and shot and killed him after being told that, 'we do not need you to do that'

What about the fact that Zimmerman lost sight of Martin, was returning to his car, was confronted by Martin, and then a fight insued?

Everyone keeps saying why Zimmerman did this and Zimmerman did that; but why isn't anyone questioning why Martin would confront him, especially since he first ran from him?

Maybe Martin ran, so he could ditch the drugs he was carrying!
 
Your dumb comment that I "ate serious crow" in the Loughner case. WTF? Your biased opinion is not the board standard on good/bad posts.

that you ate crow is a calling you a name? that is simply not true. it simply means you were wrong on his reasons. and it was proven that you were wrong.

again...you claimed i called you a name, what name calling did say christie?
 
It's political for Yurt now. He sees it as a left/right issue, and you know where he's going to come down on that kind of thing....

yurt, yurt, yurt

and i'm not making political. it is not a left or right issue. it is about facts and the law. you're just desperate to turn yet another thread into a yurt thread. why do you constantly make so many threads about me?
 
yurt, yurt, yurt

and i'm not making political. it is not a left or right issue. it is about facts and the law. you're just desperate to turn yet another thread into a yurt thread. why do you constantly make so many threads about me?

Nah - you made it political on webb's thread yesterday, and you haven't stopped.

You can't post without being partisan.
 
It's political for Yurt now. He sees it as a left/right issue, and you know where he's going to come down on that kind of thing....

Absolutely. Just like on webby's thread that Zimmerman was a registered Democrat, yurtie's first comment:
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funny how the libs don't mind when people point out if a shooter is republican.....yet....all of a sudden it no longer matters because he is a democrat.
 
Absolutely. Just like on webby's thread that Zimmerman was a registered Democrat, yurtie's first comment:
[h=2][/h]
funny how the libs don't mind when people point out if a shooter is republican.....yet....all of a sudden it no longer matters because he is a democrat.

that isn't making it political...it is pointing out a fact about libs making things political.

still waiting for the cite to where i called you a name....
 
not true. i said zimmerman should have stopped following him once the police said they were on their way and for him to back off. you're just getting upset because i'm countering your speculation that you're trying to pass off as fact.

You made was one faintly damning comment toward Zimmerman, but you haven't offered any ideas, suggestions, etc. that might show Martin was in the right. And before you go off on some verbal tangent about speculation, not being there, etc. none of us were there. We're all just trying to piece it together from the info that's available.
 

"Zimmerman stalked the teenager, nothing gave him the right to do that."
Bingo! These people are twisting themselves into pretzels to justify Zimmerman's action yet nobody will touch the fact that Zimmerman had absolutely no right to hassle somebody for walking in the rain.


He didn't "stalk" the kid, he followed him......he didn't "hassle" the kid, he didn't even talk to the kid......

Wtf do you think a "neighborhood watch" does if not watch whats going on in the neighborhood......

Talk about " twisting yourselves into pretzels"....thats exactly what you pinheads are doing to judge and convict Zimmerman by making up stories and repeating bullshit like it was all fact.......you just can't wait for the investigation to play out ..... you ignore an eyewitness to the beating ......why is that ?
 
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