It was not lying to the VP that got him...

Trump isn't gong to waste his time going up against entrenched bureaucrats -and that's a losing battle.

He needs to make some statement like
"we are not going to have a Russian relationship based solely on sanctions; that helps no-one involved."

The problem is relations got so bad under Obama,there weren't even lower level talks.
I think he needs to go all in and have a meeting,and then a summit with Putin.
Meanwhile he's got to light a fire under Congress if he wants to get anything done; they keep pushing backdates.

Trump is in danger of sinking into the Swamp if he can't get things moving

If they want a Russian reset, Rump needs to own it and say so. No more of this covert shit trying to manipulate a Russian reset without admitting they want it.
Very poor management of an administration.

Makes me think there is something they are worried about regarding their past relationship with Putin.
 
Trump isn't gong to waste his time going up against entrenched bureaucrats -and that's a losing battle.

He needs to make some statement like
"we are not going to have a Russian relationship based solely on sanctions; that helps no-one involved."

The problem is relations got so bad under Obama,there weren't even lower level talks.
I think he needs to go all in and have a meeting,and then a summit with Putin.
Meanwhile he's got to light a fire under Congress if he wants to get anything done; they keep pushing backdates.

Trump is in danger of sinking into the Swamp if he can't get things moving

What will it take for you to understand that the GOP controlled congress is a do-nothing useless group of Traitors?
 
Its looking more and more like Putin was so upset by Obama's sanctions that he hand picked Rump to be Obama's successor and spent time and resources manipulating that.
 
You are correct, Rumps tweet this morning acknowledges as much.

Then the pressure needs to be brought to bear hard upon Pence, since he is the only downside to a Trump impeachment.

What a cluster fuck.
Dubya was ten times the POTUS that Trump is.

I fear for the future of the Republic.
 
Flynn was a target ever since he went to Russia after being fired by Obama.
His work in the Russian propaganda program as well as his chaotic reign under Obama made lots of enemies in US intell, particularly the CIA.
"chaotic?" for calling Islamic Terrorism ...( wait for it)Islamic terrorism?
Maybe that's chaotic for the Obamatrons...lol

Are you seriously charging that Flynn was some kind of a Russian agent or a partner in dezinformatsiya :rolleyes:
 
Its looking more and more like Putin was so upset by Obama's sanctions that he hand picked Rump to be Obama's successor and spent time and resources manipulating that.

That is exactly what the intell community is saying.

Such grand corruption
 
Then the pressure needs to be brought to bear hard upon Pence, since he is the only downside to a Trump impeachment.

What a cluster fuck.
Dubya was ten times the POTUS that Trump is.

I fear for the future of the Republic.

The only fear I really have is if we have a 9-11 like crisis. Otherwise I think America will do fine with 4 years of supreme incompetence. It will actually help the Liberal cause in the long run.
 
"chaotic?" for calling Islamic Terrorism ...( wait for it)Islamic terrorism?
Maybe that's chaotic for the Obamatrons...lol

Are you seriously charging that Flynn was some kind of a Russian agent or a partner in dezinformatsiya :rolleyes:

It is a known fact that after Obama fired Flynn he went to Russia where he appeared on Russia propaganda.

Show us your vauded research skills you ignorant fucking Trump shill.

This is the unraveling of the Donald.

I didn't think it would be this soon but it was inevitable.
 
Its looking more and more like Putin was so upset by Obama's sanctions that he hand picked Rump to be Obama's successor and spent time and resources manipulating that.
Oh Jesus.."Putin did it" :palm:

The sanctions are a thorn in Putin's side, and fr sure Putin didn't want more Cold War 2.0 from Clinton.
aside from that......

It's the IC leadership services that are butt hurt here..there's the boogyman
 
It is a known fact that after Obama fired Flynn he went to Russia where he appeared on Russia propaganda.

Show us your vauded research skills you ignorant fucking Trump shill.

This is the unraveling of the Donald.

I didn't think it would be this soon but it was inevitable.
"he appeared on Russian propaganda"..uh huh.

He went to an awards dinner..
do you think if he was going to be some kind of Russian plant Putin would have invited him to sit next to him??
 
The only fear I really have is if we have a 9-11 like crisis. Otherwise I think America will do fine with 4 years of supreme incompetence. It will actually help the Liberal cause in the long run.

Dubya collapsed the world economy.
Trump may well do worse.
 
The only fear I really have is if we have a 9-11 like crisis. Otherwise I think America will do fine with 4 years of supreme incompetence. It will actually help the Liberal cause in the long run.

Dubya collapsed the world economy.
Trump may well do worse.
 
Oh Jesus.."Putin did it" :palm:

The sanctions are a thorn in Putin's side, and fr sure Putin didn't want more Cold War 2.0 from Clinton.
aside from that......

It's the IC leadership services that are butt hurt here..there's the boogyman

Who did the lying? Flynn
Who broke the law? Flynn

Own it superbitch
 
he's used to loyalty from employees. The DC bureaucrats are loyal only to their own agenda.

There is nothing but treachery about - the Dems are just the partisan face;
the resentment to outsiders is institutional

This all reminds me the Reagan years in a particular way. The tenacity and strength bottled up in the petite quiet Nancy Reagan. She figured out early on just what was what and who was who in the swamp. She was an absolute fortress against anything that remotely looked like harm coming towards her husband. It's no wonder Ronnie treasured her.
 
If they want a Russian reset, Rump needs to own it and say so. No more of this covert shit trying to manipulate a Russian reset without admitting they want it.
Very poor management of an administration.

Makes me think there is something they are worried about regarding their past relationship with Putin.
The push back is YUGE- both from the IC and the Dems and the insane warhawkers.
If he comes out with anything other then generalized terms,he's gong to get clobbered by the hysterical-Russiaphobes.

I do think he needs to make a statement,but he needs to do so after some lower level talks.
OR maybe a State of the Union mention,but this stuff is now the fodder of the Long Knives

he's in a tough spot -agreed
 
This all reminds me the Reagan years in a particular way. The tenacity and strength bottled up in the petite quiet Nancy Reagan. She figured out early on just what was what and who was who in the swamp. She was an absolute fortress against anything that remotely looked like harm coming towards her husband. It's no wonder Ronnie treasured her.

ROFL.

JUST SAY OH!
Simpleton
 
Oh Jesus.."Putin did it" :palm:

The sanctions are a thorn in Putin's side, and fr sure Putin didn't want more Cold War 2.0 from Clinton.
aside from that......

It's the IC leadership services that are butt hurt here..there's the boogyman

I used to agree with you that the Putin shit sounded like a conspiracy theory, but this shit is starting to get more and more real and likely to be true. Every time we find out more information it looks more likely. Open your eyes, I dont expect you to admit it today, but just think about it...

If the time comes that we need to remove Trump, we will need to do it quickly and we will need your help.
 
Who did the lying? Flynn
Who broke the law? Flynn

Own it superbitch

Who knows if it was just Flynn or all of them.

The real question here is.... Why did he or they lie? What goal was promoted by the lie?
 
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