It appears we have no right to privacy!

Taichiliberal said:
And God forbid any of these women or parents ask for public assistance.....that's their problem (brought to them courtesy of a Christo-fascist state).
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abortion is the sign of a demon-fascist state......how else can you explain people who demand a right to kill their children......
 
dukkha said:
agreed.
I remember how this was publicly discussed when Roe v Wade was in front of the court (Warren court?)

Women in some states were subjected to egregious and bizarre restrictions to the point women had to go in the "back alleys"
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no one had to go to back alleys........there was no requirement that people kill their children......
 
BartenderElite said:
You mean like 1/6?

It's not a states rights' issue if your future GOP Congress decides to legislate on it, once the SCOTUS ruling is official.

This kind of just became the 2022 campaign.
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so you're predicting California may elect congressmen who want a right to kill children.......shocking......
 
moon said:
What about a woman who deliberately conceives and then changes her mind ? What about a woman whose financial position changes ? What about a woman whose health position changes ? What about a woman who loses her partner ? Etc., etc.
You're not ranked among the JPP intelligentsia, are you.

Would a reversal of Roe v Wade warrant a revolution ? You bet. Americans escaped from the horrors of the Puritans- and I venture that there's no returning.
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all she has to do is put the child up for adoption........
 
all of the 'sky is falling' faux outrage over medical privacy is hilariously hypocritical coming from the huge demographic that talked about implementing vaccine passports ROFL
 
Jarod said:
Both, HIPPA protects your information, the right to privacy (freedom form government intrusion) protects your medical choices and options.
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those choices have to be legal.

an actual violation of privacy is forcing someone to disclose vax status.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Newsflash for ya.....when you are hospitalized for various procedures, you are at one point given a paper that gives the option of consent for the hospital to share your medical information with other hospitals or physicians and insurance companies. To do so without the consent of the patient or legal guardian/next of kin is ILLEGAL. I know this from personally being hospitalized (also when one of my brothers had appendicitis) and dealing with my elderly parents.

"psychic surgery" is NOT a bonafide medical procedure and is not recognized as such in any hospital around the world. If you know otherwise, do tell. So your example is absurd.

Since assisted suicide was NEVER a legal medical option, again your example is absurd.

Abortion is a medical procedure and aside from religious based clap trap, was a decision between the patient and her physician. But, as Jarod points out, with all this Stasi-like laws being passed, a woman's medical privacy is out the window, because literally any yahoo can go poking around to see what's up in a doctor's or hospital's office. This is not whistle blowing in as much as it's spying.

If you're okay with that, then people can blow the whistle on guys ordering up viagra and the like, as "God" has seen fit to end their reproductive cycle and it's against God and nature to force the issue. ;)
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Mass murdering babies is not a medical procedure unless the life of the mother is at risk you infanticidal pos.
 
BartenderElite said:
It's not "no problem" for many women to travel to another state for an abortion.

It's completely prohibitive for many.
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Good, here's a couple of solutions, use birth control, abstain from sex, or put the child up for adoption, mass infanticide is not a solution and will soon be illegal in the majority of states.
 
dukkha said:
agreed.
I remember how this was publicly discussed when Roe v Wade was in front of the court (Warren court?)

Women in some states were subjected to egregious and bizarre restrictions to the point women had to go in the "back alleys"

This were "living document" type reasoning, whereby the right to privacy had to be conjured up
because to deny women GUARANTEED reasonable access was a medical reality
[ and women needed to be able to contro/own their bodies]

So the decision was crafted to support a need. Strict Constructionists flipped out.
a textualist like Scalia would as well.
But the medical and sovereign right were so lacking the SCOTUS deceided to enshrine a right to control
your own body

We' lost a lot of that with intrusive testing and surveillance -
all the more reason to lock in personal sovereignty into law

Oh and stare decisis means let it stand as well
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Back alley abortion deaths were always a myth as proven conclusively by the fact that deaths by abortions immediately before and after Roe didn't change, Roe was not the factor, widespread availability of antibiotics was the factor.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...t-thousands-women-died-every-year-before-roe/
 
moon said:
What about a woman who deliberately conceives and then changes her mind ? What about a woman whose financial position changes ? What about a woman whose health position changes ? What about a woman who loses her partner ? Etc., etc.
You're not ranked among the JPP intelligentsia, are you.

Would a reversal of Roe v Wade warrant a revolution ? You bet. Americans escaped from the horrors of the Puritans- and I venture that there's no returning.
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everything triggers the left.

they should be ignored.
 
Stone said:
What about those women? Then they do the right thing and take responsibility. In a civilized world we dont murder our children just because things got a little tough.
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You take care of your own- and don't preach.
 
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