Israel's war with several middle eastern countries

[Sammy Jankis]

No, but is okay to attack ones that do stupid shit to you and yours to show them that you won't put up with it.

maybe so.

 

[Into the Night]

The Zionist Bastards NEVER keep their word.

What "Zionist Bastards"????

 

[Into the Night]

You may be right, I'm just going by what I read on Wikipedia.

Don't rely on Wikipedia to get anything right. They are heavily biased, particularly on anything political. Their articles are too often incomplete, biased, or just plain wrong.

 

[serendipity]

I'd say the most important thing anywhere is, how are the people living there being treated? Israel's got an abysmal record when it comes to its treatment of Arabs, since its very inception. Up until now, it's basically ruled the arab territories it's taken largely by force through brute force, but brute force can only get you so far, especially when you start hitting countries that have more than a few rocket launchers at their disposal. And now this...

Could Russia Arm Iran? Kremlin Insider Hints At Nuclear Support After US Strikes - Watch

Dmitry Medvedev, former Russian President, criticised recent US airstrikes on Iranian nuclear sites, claiming they failed to achieve their objectives and instead strengthened Iran's resolve and political regime., World News News - Times Now

www.timesnownews.com

Medvedev is a clown and ignored for the most part.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The 6 day war really showed the Arab's love and respect for Israel huh?

The 6-day-war was preemptive on Israel's part. The Arab League was going to go to war with Israel and that was obvious. By launching a surprise attack day(s) before the Arabs did, Israel was able to decisively defeat them.

If you look at the outcome, in the long run most of Israel's neighbors started on the path to negotiating a permanent peace. In the end, Jordan, then Egypt did. Lebanon fell into chaos and tribal warfare internally, leaving only Syria as an active rival. Then Syria fell into civil war.

It's pretty clear if the Arab states leave Israel alone, Israel will leave them alone.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

That assessment sounds fairly reasonable. Anyway, I think things would have been a lot better if Mossadegh had remained in power.

Things could have gone much better if the US wasn't politically naive and put less trust in the British.

 

[serendipity]

They toppled a Leftist-Socialist government seen at the time as likely to align with the Soviet Union to install the Shah that was firmly going to align with the West. It was a geo-political move in view of the cold war and politics of the time.

Mossadegh was no saint, the Soviets would dearly have loved to control Iran and its oil, only fools like McMoonshi'ite and Nutberg think otherwise.

Here is a far more detailed analysis of that era which you might appreciate, as with so many times in history the truth is far more complicated and nuanced. Claiming that it was perfidious Albion controlling a naive US is truly laughable.

Mossadeq: Nationalist Hero or Political Opportunist?

Mohammad Mossadeq’s legacy emerges as one marked by missed opportunities and unrealized promises. His story serves as a reminder of the dangers of political expediency and the dire consequenc…

apadanatelegraph.com

 

[serendipity]

With 20/20 hindsight the North Koreans look brilliant. .....they understood early that the only thing the American Empire understands is strength and brutality.....modern Western people are stunningly regressive.

Fuck me, you're turning into a total oddball. Why don't you relocate to there, I'm sure they'll welcome youwihm no e
arms!

 

[EdwinA]

Mossadegh was no saint, the Soviets would dearly have loved to control Iran and its oil, only fools like McMoonshi'ite and Nutberg think otherwise.

Here is a far more detailed analysis of that era which you might appreciate, as with so many times in history the truth is far more complicated and nuanced. Claiming that it was perfidious Albion controlling a naive US is truly laughable.

Mossadeq: Nationalist Hero or Political Opportunist?

Mohammad Mossadeq’s legacy emerges as one marked by missed opportunities and unrealized promises. His story serves as a reminder of the dangers of political expediency and the dire consequenc…

apadanatelegraph.com

Yep.

 

[serendipity]

Fuck me, you're turning into a total oddball. Why don't you relocate to there, I'm sure they'll welcome you wiih open
arms!

 

[dancindave]

Muslim nations have been steadfastly opposed to the existence of Israel since it was founded.
I don't see where Israel has much choice.

If you accept the fact that Israel shouldn't be there,
you should also accept the fact that non-indigenous people don't belong in the Americas either.

Like being an USA citizen living in SCOTUS Christian Nation where if one cross is a swastika then all the crosses are swastikas or all Islam “death to the infidels”……

 

[Dutch Uncle]

More interestingly is how nation after nation in the Middle East is falling into chaos and civil war. Lebanon and Syria are two examples. Palestine can't get their shit together long enough to even stop fighting themselves. Libya is a disaster. Iraq teeters on civil war.

Quite frankly, Israel isn't fighting internally it is fighting all its neighbors who start shit with each other, themselves, and Israel.

Agreed. The Arabs are still living in the 7th Century.

The blame for pushing the United States out of isolationism and building a navy belongs to the Arabs. Specifically, the Barbary Pirates attacking US commercial shipping.

Barbary pirate | Definition, Dates, Significance, & Wars | Britannica

Barbary pirate, any of the Muslim pirates operating from the coast of North Africa, most powerful during the 17th century but still active until the 19th century. They gained political significance during the 16th century, when Barbarossa united Algeria and Tunisia as military states under the...

www.britannica.com

Barbary pirate, any of the Muslim pirates operating from the coast of North Africa, at their most powerful during the 17th century but still active until the 19th century....

... Piratical practices were the cause of several wars between Tripolitania and the United States in the 19th century (see First Barbary War). The British made two attempts to suppress Algerian piracy after 1815, and it was finally ended by the French in 1830.

First Barbary War | Summary, History, Significance, & Facts | Britannica

First Barbary War (1801–05), conflict between the United States and Tripoli (now in Libya), incited by American refusal to continue payment of tribute to the piratical rulers of the North African Barbary States of Algiers, Tunis, Morocco, and Tripoli.

www.britannica.com

First Barbary War, (1801–05), conflict between the United States and Tripoli (now in Libya), incited by American refusal to continue payment of tribute to the piratical rulers of the North African Barbary States of Algiers, Tunis, Morocco, and Tripoli. This practice had been customary among European nations and the nascent United States in exchange for immunity from attack on merchant vessels in the Mediterranean.


A demand from the pasha of Tripoli for greater tribute and his dramatic declaration of war on the United States (May 14, 1801) coincided with a decision by U.S. Pres. Thomas Jefferson’s administration to demonstrate American resolve. Despite his opposition to the expense of maintaining a navy, Jefferson dispatched an American naval squadron to Tripolitan waters. By means of a special “Mediterranean Fund,” the navy—which had been partially dismantled and was perhaps nearing extinction—actually increased in size.