ZenMode
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Israel can't afford to find out what Iran has developed and what they plan to do with it.
Israel is Panicking
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IBDaMann
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I believe everything that I believe, I acknowledge everything that I observe and I reject everything that is demonstrably false. You gullible believe as you are told to believe, you reject what you observe that contradicts what you have been ordered to believe, and you accept everything that is demonstrably false that you have been ordered to accept.
Hamas are all dead. I cannot be told anything by dead people. You, on the other hand, continue to conflate Al Qassam with Gaza's public administrators who never attacked Israel, and you do so because you allow Israel to do your thinking for you. That's why you are so stupid on this topic and why you cannot support anything that you have been ordered to believe.
This is a good distraction for your ilk, but I instantly recognize your gibberish as your desperate attempt to confuse the matter. I'll let you know when it starts working.
Whatever. Now that you have tipped your king, set 'em up again and we'll go another round.
serendipity
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Of course regime change is the goal and the sooner the better. Israel is systematically wiping out the top IGRC commanders and hopefully a few clerics as well.
moon
Satire for Sanity
With a bit of concentrated prayer and some additions to the incense-burner god might wipe out the neoNazi Jews entirely and save us all from this repetitive US-backed warmongering. Satan can deal with own Trump creation.
Haw, haw..........................................haw.
Haw, haw..........................................haw.
These are the Persians.....that is not going to work.
IBDaMann
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I'd hate for Israel to hypothetically attack Iran, fail to achieve any real success but nonetheless cause Iran to panic and launch a nuke (that they currently don't actually have fortunately).
I don't want any Israelis to be on the receiving end of a nuke.
May I remind you of what regular, plain old vanilla atomic bombs did to Japan?
IBDaMann
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Explain. Trump announces peace might be imminent ... and Israel rushes to sabotage it. Explain how that somehow ensures Israel's survival?
IBDaMann
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Let it be known that you consider merely being a scientist as meriting a death sentence. You are definitely a shitty excuse for a human.
Its is the American Empire that has committed suicide.....stupidity and Evil is a nasty combo.
serendipity
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IRGC head Hossein Salami's fatal flaw: Arrogance
The IRGC had felt they could inflame wars, but they didn't believe it would come to Tehran's own doorstep.
The Iranian regime suffered an unprecedented blow in the early hours of Friday morning. Key figures in its military leadership, including in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, have been reported killed.
Iranian state media have confirmed that several key IRGC members, such as IRGC head Hossein Salami, were killed. The fact that these men went to sleep on Thursday night without any concern about what might happen is an illustration of how arrogance drove Iran’s regime to this moment.
Just a day before he was killed, Salami had claimed that any Israeli attack would be met by an unprecedented response. He claimed Iran was ready for “any war.” Salami’s entire career as head of the IRGC was filled with these kinds of boasts.
Back in February 2019, before he was appointed the head of the IRGC, he had warned that Iran could defeat Israel. “We warn them [Zionists] that if a new war breaks out, it will result in their termination,” Brig. Gen. Hossein Salami, the second-in-command of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, said at the time. He said Israel should not “play with fire” and claimed Israel would be destroyed. Iran has constantly claimed that Israel will be destroyed and the US will be driven from the region if there is a war.
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/i...tm_source=jpost.app.android&utm_medium=share9
The IRGC had felt they could inflame wars, but they didn't believe it would come to Tehran's own doorstep.
The Iranian regime suffered an unprecedented blow in the early hours of Friday morning. Key figures in its military leadership, including in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, have been reported killed.
Iranian state media have confirmed that several key IRGC members, such as IRGC head Hossein Salami, were killed. The fact that these men went to sleep on Thursday night without any concern about what might happen is an illustration of how arrogance drove Iran’s regime to this moment.
Just a day before he was killed, Salami had claimed that any Israeli attack would be met by an unprecedented response. He claimed Iran was ready for “any war.” Salami’s entire career as head of the IRGC was filled with these kinds of boasts.
Back in February 2019, before he was appointed the head of the IRGC, he had warned that Iran could defeat Israel. “We warn them [Zionists] that if a new war breaks out, it will result in their termination,” Brig. Gen. Hossein Salami, the second-in-command of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, said at the time. He said Israel should not “play with fire” and claimed Israel would be destroyed. Iran has constantly claimed that Israel will be destroyed and the US will be driven from the region if there is a war.
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/i...tm_source=jpost.app.android&utm_medium=share9
serendipity
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The Islamists are on their way out, it's time you recognised that and stopped being a Shi'ite arselicker.
It is the West that is circling the drain.
IBDaMann
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You don't have any thoughts that are your own, do you?
Scott
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I've gotten conflicting reports from people I respect on this issue. The only thing I've seen no support for is that Iran actually has any nuclear weapons at this time. Glenn Diesen and Simplicius clearly condemn the Israeli attack:
War With Iran & The Attack on Russia's Nuclear Deterrent
Glenn Diesen on Judging Freedom
glenndiesen.substack.com
SPECIAL BULLETIN: Israel Launches Major Strikes on Iran
The Israeli rogue state added another of its neighbors to the long list of regional nations it is currently bombing.
simplicius76.substack.com
However, former U.N. Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter suggests that certain actions from Iran gave Israel a good escuse to attack them. Quoting from his article:
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Iran is its own worst enemy
For the past few months, Iran has been posturing itself as a nuclear threshold state. While Iran has every right, as a signatory to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty (NPT), to possess the ability to enrich uranium as part of a peaceful nuclear program monitored by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), it does not have any legal right to pursue a nuclear weapons capability so long as it remains a signatory to the NPT. Iran’s accumulation of uranium enriched to 60%, for which there was no legitimate purpose linked to Iran’s declared nuclear activities, was a deliberate act by Iran to position itself to be within one enrichment cycle of possessing uranium enriched to around 92%, which would be usable in a fission weapon.
Iranian IR-6 centrifuges
Iran likewise has been installing advanced IR-6 centrifuge cascades, which are orders of magnitude more efficient when it comes to the enrichment of uranium, at its underground enrichment facility at Firdos. These cascades would be able to convert Iran’s 60% enriched uranium to weapons grade uranium within a matter of days, providing Iran with fissile material sufficient for 3-5 nuclear weapons.
Iranian military industry has, over the course of the past decade, mastered all the technologies necessary to produce a warhead possessing advanced electronics and other heat-sensitive properties that can withstand the heat of hypersonic re-entry. These warhead design characteristics are an essential part of any viable nuclear weapons delivery capability—simply producing a fission device is not enough; one must be able to deliver it to the intended target.
The one thing which held Iran back was the official decision taken by the Iranian leadership that nuclear weapons were forbidden under existing Islamic jurisprudence, namely a fatwa, or edict, issued by Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, which deemed nuclear weapons incompatible with the principles of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
But Iran has made this principled stance meaningless in recent months as statements from senior Iraqi officials, advisors, and politicians have made it clear that this fatwa prohibiting nuclear weapons could be reversed if the Islamic Republic were to be faced with an existential threat from a nuclear-armed Israel.
In short, Iran has positioned itself to be a nuclear weapons threshold state.
And this would never be allowed to stand, a reality Israel’s ongoing strikes have emphatically punctuated.
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Ritter actually believes that at this juncture, Iran's best option is to strike Israel, and only Israel, hard, and then make a peace deal not with Israel, but with the U.S.:
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The solution to Iran’s nuclear program, however, cannot be allowed to be provided through military intervention by Israel and/or the United States.
Instead, Iran must deliver extremely harsh blows against the state of Israel, strikes so utterly devastating that Israel has no choice but to plead for the United States to step in a broker a peace deal.
And the foundation of this peace deal must be the normalization of Iran’s nuclear program within the framework of the NPT.
Is such an outcome possible?
Yes.
But it will require the near destruction of Israel by Iran.
True Promise 3, the long awaited Iranian ballistic missile assault against Israel, has been threatened by Iran for many months now.
Iran must now execute this operation with perfection and decisiveness if it wants to survive.
Anything less will spell the end of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
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I'm not sure if Mr. Ritter's take is correct- but from what I've read of Simplicius and Glen Diesen's articles, they don't get into what Iran should do at all, so I think it's best at this juncture to just see how things progress from here. I'm definitely thinking of Silo right now, a TV series of a dystopian future that apparently starts with Iran hitting the U.S. with a dirty bomb. So far, the U.S. has distanced itself from Israel's action, which I think is good.
serendipity
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They've already eliminated the head of the IRGC!
Killing military leaders tends to lead to better more ruthless men taking their place.
serendipity
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They'll have to call up the Spartans to destroy them
serendipity
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Nearly all of the Arab world for starters.