Isn't it a bit sexist?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/wo...gement-is-top-challenge-2010-05-11?link=kiosk

Every time you read one of these "balancing" stories, it is always a woman who has to "balance" career and kids. I mean, what the heck?

Almost everybody who has been in these jobs has had to do this for centuries.


It is typically women that have to balance career and kids. While men have been contributing more and more to childcare and house work generally, women still take on the bulk of the responsibility.

It's isn't sexist to acknowledge reality.
 
It is typically women that have to balance career and kids. While men have been contributing more and more to childcare and house work generally, women still take on the bulk of the responsibility.

It's isn't sexist to acknowledge reality.


Ask Larry Summers about your last comment.
 
It is typically women that have to balance career and kids. While men have been contributing more and more to childcare and house work generally, women still take on the bulk of the responsibility.

It's isn't sexist to acknowledge reality.
:rolleyes:

Right. That sounds so very much like the arguments others use when saying, "It's just reality, black people... "

It is sexism. Men are parents too, and they've been juggling this since both parents entered the workforce.
 
Studies show that women perform 70% of household work. So, while men do have to juggle work and home life, the juggling impacts women a whole hell of a lot more than men. That's just the reality of the situation. I'm not saying it is right or ideal, but that's the status quo.
 
Larry Summers made a comment about innate abilities of women in science and math. I'm not suggesting that there is anything innate about the breakdown of who performs household work.

I was saying it partially tounge-in-check but 'acknowledging reality' is often viewed as sexist/racist etc.
 
Studies show that women perform 70% of household work. So, while men do have to juggle work and home life, the juggling impacts women a whole hell of a lot more than men. That's just the reality of the situation. I'm not saying it is right or ideal, but that's the status quo.
Studies do not take into account that some households are like mine, the woman chooses to stay at home and add value to the family that way.

70% is about right considering the percentage of households like mine. Plainly stated, stories like this simply ignore men's contributions to the family and that they have juggled this same thing ever since women entered the work force (basically during WWII). It's this type of stereotyping that maintain that states like CO ignores men more often than not in custody cases. It assumes that the contribution of men is always "less" and therefore "less important" to a family other than economically.
 
Studies do not take into account that some households are like mine, the woman chooses to stay at home and add value to the family that way.

70% is about right considering the percentage of households like mine. Plainly stated, stories like this simply ignore men's contributions to the family and that they have juggled this same thing ever since women entered the work force (basically during WWII).


Damo - If you want to get upset about a Mother's Day story on working mothers and the challenges they deal with in balancing their work life and family life, go right ahead. Just give a second to break out my violin.

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All set, whine away.
 
Damo - If you want to get upset about a Mother's Day story on working mothers and the challenges they deal with in balancing their work life and family life, go right ahead. Just give a second to break out my violin.

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All set, whine away.
Not "upset" about the story. Simply pointing out the accepted sexism. (FYI: The story was not published on Mother's Day.)

After that opening post a conversation began, and I was talking about it as a direct result of your response. You are participating in a conversation where you are now attempting to "ridicule" my answers away rather than actually continuing the conversation. Such fallacious arguments are usually a result of a lack of capacity to respond.

I'm glad my points hit home so well.
 
I didn't see anything that even remotely appeared to be sexist.
Mostly because you still fall for the societal stereotype that men do not contribute to the family in any way other than as a wallet. People have been juggling this for at least 60 years, and every story about it is constantly about how only "women" do the "juggling"...

Stuff like this perpetuates the lopsided family courts in states like CO where men are almost entirely thought of as economic and never as care giving contributors to a "family".
 
Not "upset" about the story. Simply pointing out the accepted sexism.

After that opening post a conversation began, and I was talking about it as a direct result of your response. You are participating in a conversation where you are now attempting to "ridicule" my answers away rather than actually continuing the conversation. Such fallacious arguments are usually a result of a lack of capacity to respond.

I'm glad my points hit home so well.


It isn't sexism. It's reality. You response was just a bunch of anecdotal nonsense.

Working mothers face more challenges in balancing work and home life than working men. Acknowledging this simple fact is neither sexism nor an attempt to diminish the roles of men in the family.

Your hypersensitivity to a Mother's Day article about working mothers is really weird.
 
Studies show that women perform 70% of household work. So, while men do have to juggle work and home life, the juggling impacts women a whole hell of a lot more than men. That's just the reality of the situation. I'm not saying it is right or ideal, but that's the status quo.

in my experience with about 90% of the men i work with they dont have to do shit... just wake up maybe take the kid to daycare or something then play with them for a little bit after work and on weekends.

Now me on the other hand with a night-shift nurse wife has a little bit more of the responsibility and a little bit less of the freedom.

One final thought its not sexiest to say that overall men are not genetically made to be caregivers like women are. So its not surprising that women do the majority of the care-giving.
 
It isn't sexism. It's reality. You response was just a bunch of anecdotal nonsense.

Working mothers face more challenges in balancing work and home life than working men. Acknowledging this simple fact is neither sexism nor an attempt to diminish the roles of men in the family.

Your hypersensitivity to a Mother's Day article about working mothers is really weird.
Again, the story was not published on Mother's Day, it isn't a "Mother's Day Article" any more than a story not published on Easter is an "Easter Article"...

Your attempt to diminish what I am saying without actually speaking to the points is again another fallacious argument made because you do not have any more salient answers.

I am again glad that my points have hit home so well.
 
Now, using that same stereotype, if I were to say that women should not be firefighters because they are more genetically designed to be child-care machines than to have the ability to carry 300 pound fatties out of fires, I'd be deservedly attacked.
 
It isn't sexism. It's reality. You response was just a bunch of anecdotal nonsense.

Working mothers face more challenges in balancing work and home life than working men. Acknowledging this simple fact is neither sexism nor an attempt to diminish the roles of men in the family.

Your hypersensitivity to a Mother's Day article about working mothers is really weird.

Like damo said, you're making it seem as if men don't Juggle. We do. We juggle big bouncy whore boobs while the women do stuff.
 
Again, the story was not published on Mother's Day, it isn't a "Mother's Day Article" any more than a story not published on Easter is an "Easter Article"...

Your attempt to diminish what I am saying without actually speaking to the points is again another fallacious argument made because you do not have any more salient answers.

I am again glad that my points have hit home so well.


Your only point seems to be that you feel under-appreciated.
 
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