Islam Is A Barbaric Religion

Bin Laden was executed and shot in the face. Does that bother you in any way?

It is, in my opinion, almost impossible to make a snap judgement about the shooting of OBL.
First, the one thing that separates the 'civilised' world from what we 'like' to call the 'uncivilised' world is the rule of law. The law by which we live, both in the US and the UK, states that a man is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Next there are the practical issues. What would have happened had he been brought to trial? Had he been brought to trial, who in the world would have, could have tried him? A precedent might be Nuremberg. Hess, if you remember, was kept alone in Spandau, a symbol of the evil of which man is capable. Could the same have happened with OBL?
As it is, we are TOLD that there was a concensus that the man they found, the man to whom the seals had been led, actually was OBL but the death sentence was not given by any legally constituted court. Indeed we don't actually know (although most believe) that the victim was correctly identified and we are TOLD that DNA proved the case. But at the moment the trigger was pulled what proof was there?
It is easier by far, to go along with this story, but suppose it is not true. We have only third party statements to say that he was the guilt behind the murders.
What was the main source of the evidence? Well it came to us via the previous administration. What was their record of telling the truth? Even their supporters now admit that truth was not ther top priority. Yes the video snippets appear to have been incontravertible, but suppose that was not OBL either. Indeed the only evidence we have that there ever was a man of that name was from his family in Saudi and the usual Saudi records.
Is it not possible that a terrorist organisation found a mentally challenged stooge, held him at gunpoint, and promoted him as the eminence gris of the Middle East? Is it not possible that the body carried out from the house in Abottabad belonged to a stranger?
No, I do not for one minute, believe that, but I am concerned that even in these circumstances the correct procedure was not carried out.
I rejoiced when I heard the news. I thought killing the bastard was too good for him. And then, as I looked on my own doorstep, where the rule of law, as we know it, doesn't really exist and factual reporting of the truth is not always evident, I began to realise that 'they' could have told us anything and we would have believed it.
They told us that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. They told us he was ready to attack us in our beds. We have been told of countless 'terror threats' none of which actually developed into anything.
We do not have a good record when it comes to being conned. We were happy to believe that smoking was not harmful, but it is. We believe that our governments actually have our best interests at heart, but often they do not, We are told we are free, but no one knows how freedom is defined. We are told we are democracies, another lie.
If he is dead, I am glad he is dead.
 
Link please.

Since this was all over the news in the days after the shooting, I have to believe you're just stalling.

"Osama bin Laden was not armed when a U.S. Navy SEAL raiding party confronted him during an assault on his compound in Pakistan, the White House said Tuesday.

White House press secretary Jay Carney acknowledged that bin Laden did not have a weapon even though administration officials have said that bin Laden resisted during the 40-minute raid. Bin Laden was shot in the head and in the chest during the encounter, Carney said.

Carney said bin Laden's wife "rushed the U.S. assaulter" and was shot in the leg but not killed, contrary to what a White House official said on Monday, when reports said bin Laden used her as a shield.

Carney declined to offer further details on bin Laden's behavior during the raid. Resistance did not require a firearm, he said.

He said the decision to kill rather than capture bin Laden was made by forces on the ground, not by the White House, which earlier authorized the rehearsed raid that included contingencies for, but no expectations of, capture."


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4288266...n_laden/t/bin-laden-not-armed-during-us-raid/
 

More generalization.

"Most Muslim political and religious leaders condemned the attacks. The leaders vehemently denouncing the attacks included the Presidents of Egypt, Jordan, the Palestinian Authority, Libya, Syria, Iran and Pakistan.[5][15] The sole exception was Iraq, when the then-president Saddam Hussein, said of the attacks that "the American cowboys are reaping the fruit of their crimes against humanity".[16] Saddam would later offer sympathy to the Americans killed in the attacks.[17]

* Renowned Muslim scholar Yusuf al-Qaradawi denounced the attacks and the unprovoked killings of hundreds of civilians as a "heinous crime" and urged Muslims to donate blood to the victims. He did however criticise the United States' "biased policy towards Israel" and also called on Muslims to "concentrate on facing the occupying enemy directly", inside the Palestinian territories.[18] The alleged Hezbollah "spiritual mentor" and Lebanese Shia cleric Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah condemned the attacks.

* Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of Hamas, said he was not interested in exporting such attacks to the United States, however he criticized the "unfair American position".[19]

* Afghanistan's Taliban rulers condemned the attacks and also vehemently rejected suggestions that Osama bin Laden, who had been given asylum in Afghanistan, could be behind them.[19]

* Huge crowds attended candlelit vigils in Iran, and 60,000 spectators observed a minute's silence at Tehran football stadium.[20][21]

"Annette Krüger Spitta of the ARD's (German public broadcasting) TV magazine Panorama states that footage not aired shows that the street surrounding the celebration in Jerusalem is quiet. Furthermore, she states that a man in a white T-shirt incited the children and gathered people together for the shot. The Panorama report, dated September 20, 2001, quotes Communications Professor Martin Löffelholz explaining that in the images one sees jubilant Palestinian children and several adults but there is no indication that their pleasure is related to the attack. The woman seen cheering (Nawal Abdel Fatah) stated afterwards that she was offered cake if she celebrated on camera, and was frightened when she saw the pictures on television afterward.[25]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_September_11_attacks
 
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Hi, I am Alias and I am here to troll the board.

I offer nothing but my vitrolic extreme right rhetoric.

I am very ignorant in general and say things I don't know to be true and can't prove.

I am scared of things I don't understand and since I am so stupid I understand very little of anything.

I also hate anyone different than me, and thinks other's rights should be curtailed if they don't agree with me.

I have embarrassed myself and lost all credibility on this board.

My favorite topic is feces, since it is my only knowledgable subject.

I have no debate skills whatsoever, and only came here to troll.

I am proud of my ignorant stands and close-minded to a fault.

If I don't learn new things, I hope to be less afraid.

Even the other conservatives here make fun of my stupidity, but I don't notice because I am so ignorant.

I am a closet homosexual like my only friend, SM, but I hide it by acting like a homophobe (like my only friend, SM
 
If your bitch ass could only debate the OP. Alas, you're stuck with ad hominem. Pwned. Self-induced. LOL
 
As are Christians who put people to death in gas chambers and electric chairs.

Bullshit.
Those people were found guilty by a panel of their peers and please show where any woman or homosexual was executed, in the past (OH) 30 years, in the US; for adultry or for being a homosexual.
 
It bothers me because we're supposed to follow the rule of law and shooting an unarmed person point-blank doesn't fit into that.

Why couldn't he have been taken alive, tried and convicted like Saddam?

HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Thanks for once again showing how stupid you are.
 
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