Islam Is A Barbaric Religion

Alias said:
I have probably read more history books than you and I stand by my statement. What about my statement do you disagree with?
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I didn't say any history book, I said specifically a history of the ME in the early centuries, and whether you read more than I did can't be determined by either of us.

Muhammad is not divine. The apostles, disciples, writers of the NT and the saints were not only about peace and love. For example, google John Chrysostom and learn about his anti-Semitism.

“The Jews are more savage than any highwaymen and do greater harm to those who have fallen among them. They do not simply strip off their victim’s clothes nor inflict wounds on his body as did those robbers on the road to Jericho. Rather, the Jews mortally hurt their victim’s soul, inflicting ten thousand wounds, and leave it lying in a pit of ungodliness…
 
christiefan915 said:
I didn't say any history book, I said specifically a history of the ME in the early centuries, and whether you read more than I did can't be determined by either of us.

Muhammad is not divine. The apostles, disciples, writers of the NT and the saints were not only about peace and love. For example, google John Chrysostom and learn about his anti-Semitism.

“The Jews are more savage than any highwaymen and do greater harm to those who have fallen among them. They do not simply strip off their victim’s clothes nor inflict wounds on his body as did those robbers on the road to Jericho. Rather, the Jews mortally hurt their victim’s soul, inflicting ten thousand wounds, and leave it lying in a pit of ungodliness…
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John Chrysostom and his thoughts and words mean nothing when we are discussing doctrines of Islam and Christianity. This discussion is about Islam and Christianity and their Doctrines. You might as well quote Daffy Duck.
 
Dixie said:
This is just simply a lie. I don't know where you learned history, but you deserve a refund. Hitler was not a prophet or priest, and Nazism was not a religious teaching or practice. And even if you were correct on that analysis, it's still different from Islam, because Islam is the actual religious teaching itself, not an individual and isolated perversion of a religious doctrine.
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Baloney. Didn't you ever hear of the National Reich Church of Germany?

"The Protestant Reich Church, officially German Evangelical Church (German: Deutsche Evangelische Kirche) and colloquially Reichskirche, was formed in 1936 to merge the 28 regional churches into a unified state church that espoused a single doctrine compatible with National Socialism."
 
Sinn Fein said:
I was deeply saddened. I understand it, but I did not support it in any capacity. I too felt it for a moment, I know. But it was wrong and I have since recanted on those emotions, for whatever it may be worth.
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is it wrong to be happy you killed someone on the battlefield?
 
christiefan915 said:
Baloney. Didn't you ever hear of the National Reich Church of Germany?

"The Protestant Reich Church, officially German Evangelical Church (German: Deutsche Evangelische Kirche) and colloquially Reichskirche, was formed in 1936 to merge the 28 regional churches into a unified state church that espoused a single doctrine compatible with National Socialism."
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And what were the Christian Doctrines of that church?
 
Sinn Fein said:
Well by preaching on any number of books from the OT for starters. Practiced by Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, Calvinists, Etc.
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Preaching lessons from the OT, sure. Teaching Christian Doctrine? No. Preaching and Teaching are two different things.
 
Dixie said:
Make no mistake, if Islam could bring about blood in the streets of America every day, they certainly would. They are smart enough to understand, should such a thing escalate to that level, we would run every Mooslem out of America in short order,
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Dixie supports throwing people out of America based on their religion.


Dixie said:
and it would be very difficult for them to recruit, indoctrinate, and radicalize from within. Believe me, the day is coming where there shall be blood in the streets daily, and we won't stand a chance.

As for Christianity and your question, I would say from the time of Christ to now, has been relatively peaceful. You see, Jesus brought reform to Christianity, the message of love and forgiveness. Violence and killing is the antithesis of love and forgiveness, therefore, those who have instigated violence in the name of Christianity since the message of Jesus Christ, are NOT practicing Christianity. Mooslem apologists often point to the Christian Crusades as the 'example' of violence in Christianity, however this was done in the medieval period, and in response to aggressive and violent Mooslem expansion. This is not to excuse the Crusades, but rather to point out, you have to go back to medieval times to find when Christianity was comparable to Islam in terms of violence.
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The Crusades was not a response to Muslim aggression. You have to be really delusional to describe that entire disaster as "a response to Muslim aggression." When they captured Jerusalem, they murdered every Jew, Christian, and Muslim that inhabited the city. The killed soooo many Christians during the crusades. They were just ignorant beasts looking for little more than to expand their fiefdoms, not noble defenders of Christians against aggressive brown people. And again, there wasn't a unified Muslim or Christian empire. These were different wars between different kingdoms. You are so historically ignorant it's amazing.
 
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Sinn Fein said:
Do you have anything to support your statement? I'll happily admit error if I am wrong.
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Let's take it step by step........The OT is full of history and many spiritual lessons are contained in it. However, the people in the OT were under the law. The law died on the cross when Jesus died. With me so far?
 
Alias said:
There is nothing in the NT advocating violence as a Doctrine of Christianity. The Quran says "to strike terror into the hearts of the unbeliever". The Quran says to not make friends with Christians or Jews. The NT says "love your neighbor."

The Quran also gives instructions for husbands on how to beat their wives. I challenge you find that in the NT.

Islam has violent doctrines. Christianity doesn't. If you can't understand that, then I don't care how many conferences you attend.
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Your cherry-picking is noted.

There are still laws in this country that allow for wife-beating.
 
Sinn Fein said:
Depends on the circumstances, though I don't know of anyone who was happy about it regardless. Maybe that they ended up surviving, but that's not the same thing.
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Amen, you aren't happy, it is something you live with for the rest of your life, you can tell he hasn't ever had to experience the horrific act of taking another's life...
 
christiefan915 said:
Your cherry-picking is noted.

There are still laws in this country that allow for wife-beating.
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We are talking about Christianity and Islam. Islam and the Quran has instructions for beating your wife. Show me anything in the NT that instructs husbands to beat their wives. Thanks.
 
Alias said:
John Chrysostom and his thoughts and words mean nothing when we are discussing doctrines of Islam and Christianity. This discussion is about Islam and Christianity and their Doctrines. You might as well quote Daffy Duck.
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Your moving of the goal posts has been noted.
 
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