Is Trump the most anti-war President since Carter?

anatta said:
don't you love it? "Pulling out of Syria" -there was only 1 reason to go in,and that was to lead the coalition.

Mission accomplished..

but for the dweebs/ generals / neocons /imperialist asshats -puling out is a LOSS..

WE NEED TO DIE FOR SYRIA !!!
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Pulling out is good politics too.

Once ISIS is defeated in Syria the perpetual war enthusiasts struggle to articulate a reason why we need to stay there. And if they don’t know why we are there—the average voter isn’t going to figure it out for them.

The left is traditionally anti war but they’re nowhere to be found. This thread is my second attempt to coax some accolades out of them. I know they won’t play but I do it for fun lol.
 
Darth Beto Omar said:
Pulling out is good politics too.

Once ISIS is defeated in Syria the perpetual war enthusiasts struggle to articulate a reason why we need to stay there. And if they don’t know why we are there—the average voter isn’t going to figure it out for them.

The left is traditionally anti war but they’re nowhere to be found. This thread is my second attempt to coax some accolades out of them. I know they won’t play but I do it for fun lol.
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the left are the new neocons (neolibs)
 
anatta said:
don't you love it? "Pulling out of Syria" -there was only 1 reason to go in,and that was to lead the coalition.

Mission accomplished..

but for the dweebs/ generals / neocons /imperialist asshats -puling out is a LOSS..

WE NEED TO DIE FOR SYRIA !!!
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Well look at it this way, the US pulled out of Afghanistan and look what happened. Same story in Iraq, Syria and Libya. Now we are abandoning the Kurds who fought so valiantly against ISIS. Is this the message that the US wants to send, that we will abandon you when it's expedient to do so?
 
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Havana Moon said:
Well look at it this way, the US pulled out of Afghanistan and look what happened. Same story in Iraq, now we are abandoning the Kurds who fought so valiantly against ISIS, is this the message that the US wants to send, that we will abandon you when it's expedient to do so?
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But when will our withdrawal be convenient to all concerned parties?
 
Havana Moon said:
I don't know but this much is clear, the US has abandoned those who helped them too many times in the past. Expediency is never a good reason to decide policy.
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Problem is, simply being there in the first place creates problems of that nature.

Whatever the answer is for the civil war in Syria—the US military doesn’t have it. Arming the Syrian ‘moderates’ was an unmitigated disaster that came back to bite us. And the same establishment gurus who were responsible for that mess, are up in arms over Mattis’ departure.

Toppling Assad is utter madness since that would have us playing on the *Same Team* as the jihadists. Our mere presence there risks a confrontation with Russia—or a proxy war with Russia.

Been there, done that, in Viet Nam.

How many times do we need to sit through the same movie? If we don’t have clear objectives, we just don’t belong there.
 
Havana Moon said:
Well look at it this way, the US pulled out of Afghanistan and look what happened. Same story in Iraq, Syria and Libya. Now we are abandoning the Kurds who fought so valiantly against ISIS. Is this the message that the US wants to send, that we will abandon you when it's expedient to do so?
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LIBYA????
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I know i know - the Kurds deserve protection and a state - but I'm not willing to let our guys sit in the middle of Syria as babysitters.
It then becomes "you can never leave"
 
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