Is "Thug" an overused term with racial undertones?

Russell Wilson is one of the "good ones."

That's not really a fair comment. I get folks that prefer Wilson's brand of sportsmanship to Sherman's, and it has nothing to do w/ color.

As an adult, I think Sherman's thing was kind of entertaining. But, when I watch this stuff w/ my kids, it's not how I want them acting in competitive sports. There is such a thing as losing or winning with class & sportsmanship, and Sherman is on the opposite end of that spectrum (while Wilson is much more how I would want to teach my kids to respond in either situation).

That aspect of it has nothing to do with color, at all.
 
That's not really a fair comment. I get folks that prefer Wilson's brand of sportsmanship to Sherman's, and it has nothing to do w/ color.

As an adult, I think Sherman's thing was kind of entertaining. But, when I watch this stuff w/ my kids, it's not how I want them acting in competitive sports. There is such a thing as losing or winning with class & sportsmanship, and Sherman is on the opposite end of that spectrum (while Wilson is much more how I would want to teach my kids to respond in either situation).

That aspect of it has nothing to do with color, at all.

well stated.
 
(1) That's not my position at all.

(2) I don't think lenaingright is a racist. I don't think you are racist. I don't think Superfreak is a racist.

(3) Non-racist people act on racial stereotypes sometimes without even realizing what they are doing. I'm not specifically accusing leaningright or anyone else of doing that in this instance, but have made my comments to hopefully bring about a bit of introspection on that score. You can get you hackles up and call me a douchebag piece of shit racist if you want. I don't mind.

(4) My apologies to leaningright. I like and respect you and don't think you are a racist.

(5) I am better at life than Superfreak.

Dung, I haven't called you a name at all and nor have you to I to my knowledge so I appreciate the ability to have a (passionate) discussion without it delving into those depths.

I will say I disagree with your comment to leaningright about Wilson being one of the 'good ones'.
 
Well Dung's position here is essentially unless you are ok with Sherman's post game interview there's a good chance you are racist. Rana, how many comments has leaningright made on this board that you feel were racist? Is he a racist man to you? Yet Dung has in essence implied leaningright is with leaningright not liking Sherman's interview and liking people like Russell Wilson.

I am sorry, but your perception is totally different than mine as to what Dung is saying.

I feel like you have misunderstood his replies.
 
That's not really a fair comment. I get folks that prefer Wilson's brand of sportsmanship to Sherman's, and it has nothing to do w/ color.

As an adult, I think Sherman's thing was kind of entertaining. But, when I watch this stuff w/ my kids, it's not how I want them acting in competitive sports. There is such a thing as losing or winning with class & sportsmanship, and Sherman is on the opposite end of that spectrum (while Wilson is much more how I would want to teach my kids to respond in either situation).

That aspect of it has nothing to do with color, at all.

If I was able to step away from my 49ers tinted glasses I would say this comment was well stated and sums up my belief succinctly.

(And I would add stating this doesn't make Sherman a bad person or take away from his excellent story)
 
well stated.

It is his position though and to believe that all people share his reasoned response is flat out stupid.

It may not be about color to you, but it is about color to some.

This is the point being made, to some, thug is a racial slur! Sherman felt it was a racial slur, there are those that use it as a racial slur.

Denying this fact or arguing that this is not the case is ridiculous.
 
I am sorry, but your perception is totally different than mine as to what Dung is saying.

I feel like you have misunderstood his replies.

From your perspective, what did you think Dung meant by his reply to leaningright?

Leaning stated that he appreciated the way Wilson did things... Dung then stated that was because Wilson was one of the 'good ones'.
 
It is his position though and to believe that all people share his reasoned response is flat out stupid.

It may not be about color to you, but it is about color to some.

This is the point being made, to some, thug is a racial slur! Sherman felt it was a racial slur, there are those that use it as a racial slur.

Denying this fact or arguing that this is not the case is ridiculous.

Again... any term that is derogatory in nature can be put in place of the word 'thug'.

What is truly racist is Dung's comment about Russell being one of the 'good ones'.
 
If I was able to step away from my 49ers tinted glasses I would say this comment was well stated and sums up my belief succinctly.

(And I would add stating this doesn't make Sherman a bad person or take away from his excellent story)

The Niners so had that game. They were rolling on that last drive; no way they wouldn't have scored if they had a little more patience. Kaep took an unnecessary risk.

I really like Sherman & always have, and he does make things entertaining. But a part of me does hate how he acts on the field. That's his brand, though.
 
The Niners so had that game. They were rolling on that last drive; no way they wouldn't have scored if they had a little more patience. Kaep took an unnecessary risk.

I really like Sherman & always have, and he does make things entertaining. But a part of me does hate how he acts on the field. That's his brand, though.

I swear I cringed when that ball left Kap's hand. Between the Super Bowl and this game we have not had much success throwing to Crabtree in the end zone at the end of the game.
 
The people that do that and then brand Sherman a thug are acting like racists. The reason they are reaching the conclusion that Sherman is a thug is not really based on those few seconds of video, but on how they view young black men generally. They're thugs, excepting (of course) the good ones. Which Sherman isn't becuase look at him.

You keep referring to looks... I haven't seen anyone refer to looks on here.

Take this guy

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And this guy

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Differences... Of course. Similarities ... Absolutely. Pigmentation, dreads, etc. Why would most prefer the second to be the face of their organization? Because he hasn't gone off on some rant that portrays the attitude that it is all about him or that he thinks less of someone else...in a hateful sounding manner. Looks have nothing to do with the feelings of many. What is said and done by the individual does.

Now, Mr. Sherman might be a really nice guy who just happened to have "gone off" while being caught up in the emotion of the situation, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But at that point, at that time, his choice of words and body language was less than stellar.

He is a public figure who made a public statement and I as a private viewer have formed an opinion. I can tell you that race in no way plays into that opinion, but it doesn't matter. I can tell you that I view Ben Rothlisberger as being worse than a thug because of his treatment of women, but you can believe that or not. I make judgments and develop opinions about people in the public sector all the time and sometimes I even change those opinions. Chris Christie is a bully, Mitch McConnell is a whiny butt, Maxine Waters is a lunatic, etc. It's what I think at the moment.

I will say that I view (MY OPINION and doesn't count for much) this as just another push from some in society to try to make everything acceptable. It seems that so many don't want there to be a standard of behavior where something said or done is deemed as acceptable or unacceptable or right and wrong. Again, this is all just my opinion and it and a quarter will buy you a cup of coffee in my hometown store.
 
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Maybe the left and their race hustling friends would be kind enough to tell us white privileged crackas what words will not offend the delicate sensibilities of today's colored community.

Hell we have so many supposed "code words" I am finding it near impossible to keep up with them all.
 
From your perspective, what did you think Dung meant by his reply to leaningright?

Leaning stated that he appreciated the way Wilson did things... Dung then stated that was because Wilson was one of the 'good ones'.

NFL football player, talk about seeing racism where there is none, lol
 
LOL... now Dung is going to tell us that a compliment is also racist.

This is a perfect example of my earlier point... you can SAY anything is racist. You can make up an excuse as to why it is racist. Just as our all knowing white people Dung and Darla will do.

Nobody here is as white as you are Harvey, and it doesn't stop you from dictating what racism is and is
Not.

Ps - how do you know DH is white?
 
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