Is there anybody who still believes Trump won the 2020 election?

[martin]

No, it's knowing a difference. Collusion did occur, what Mueller found didn't occur was "criminal conspiracy". It is a healthy sign of your own mental health that you equate them as delusions, however.

 

[Yakuda]

No, it's knowing a difference. Collusion did occur, what Mueller found didn't occur was "criminal conspiracy". It is a healthy sign of your own mental health that you equate them as delusions, however.

Dont you love when pussies like you dont have the strength to push the "reply with quote" button which directly notifies the person they are responding to? You little bitch

 

[martin]

Dont you love when pussies like you dont have the strength to push the "reply with quote" button which directly notifies the person they are responding to? You little bitch

Dumbo, the button was hit, like the one before it was hit. What I might love is when assholes like you are so desperate to answer a criticism they resort to
things like, “I’m upset at the button you pushed.”

 

[ExpressLane]

The election was decided by 42,916 votes out of 155,507, 476 (0.023%) divided between Wis 20,682 Arz 10,457 and Georgia 11,777 . If Biden had lost these three very close swing states he would not have had enough electoral votes to win. We have not had a complete audit in ANY of these three swing states or any other state. We CANNOT rule out voter fraud when we have not completely looked for it. Anyone that rules out voter fraud before looking for it is just spewing their party line or is an idiot or both. As Reagan said Trust but Verify. Democrats are saying Trust but Don't verify.

 

[Matt Dillon]

We know you're out there.

Speak now or forever SHUT YOUR FUCKING PIE HOLE!!!

I do, that's why it took 2 weeks+ to "count all the votes". That's because Trump won by much more than Democrats anticipated and had enough fake premade votes to beat on election night. Therefore they had to wait until they got the real numbers all in to cheat up

enough ballots over what they already had ready to go to make it look like Biden won. Otherwise the election results would have been finalized election night, like it has been for 200+ years.

No way did a candidate that couldn't fill 1/2 of a HS gym get the most votes in America ever.

Biden couldn't win class president at a high school.

 

[BartenderElite]

The election was decided by 42,916 votes out of 155,507, 476 (0.023%) divided between Wis 20,682 Arz 10,457 and Georgia 11,777 . If Biden had lost these three very close swing states he would not have had enough electoral votes to win. We have not had a complete audit in ANY of these three swing states or any other state. We CANNOT rule out voter fraud when we have not completely looked for it. Anyone that rules out voter fraud before looking for it is just spewing their party line or is an idiot or both. As Reagan said Trust but Verify. Democrats are saying Trust but Don't verify.

.023% of the vote


It's possible that Biden won.

So, every close election is something we should be suspicious of? Because we never "completely" looked for voter fraud?

 

[BartenderElite]

I do, that's why it took 2 weeks+ to "count all the votes". That's because Trump won by much more than Democrats anticipated and had enough fake premade votes to beat on election night. Therefore they had to wait until they got the real numbers all in to cheat up

enough ballots over what they already had ready to go to make it look like Biden won. Otherwise the election results would have been finalized election night, like it has been for 200+ years.

1800, 1824, 1876 and 2000 all say "hold my beer."

 

[Matt Dillon]

1800, 1824, 1876 and 2000 all say "hold my beer."

Ooo! You got all 4! Congrats!

Democrats based their cheating on the 2000 election and what happened in FL and spread it across 7 states. On top of that, they added ballot harvesting and fraudulent mail-in ballots and letting Zuckerberg fund entire areas' election workings. (only in the suspect swing states, too, might I add.)

 

[ExpressLane]

So, every close election is something we should be suspicious of? Because we never "completely" looked for voter fraud?

I think random complete audit of Very close swing states would go a LONG way of insuring election integrity. Maybe if the close states in 2016 had been audited we would have had the Democrats in Congress crying election fraud. Or just maybe Hillary would have won.

 

[BartenderElite]

Ooo! You got all 4! Congrats!

Democrats based their cheating on the 2000 election and what happened in FL and spread it across 7 states. On top of that, they added ballot harvesting and fraudulent mail-in ballots and letting Zuckerberg fund entire areas' election workings. (only in the suspect swing states, too, might I add.)

You live in a complete fantasy world.

Now that we know the Fox hosts were lying, look at the nutters who were really the ones saying things were rigged: Sidney Powell, Mike Lindell, Giuliani, Trump. These people are all completely disgraced, and proven liars.

And that's why you believe the election was rigged. Because a few nutters said so.

 

[BartenderElite]

I think random complete audit of Very close swing states would go a LONG way of insuring election integrity. Maybe if the close states in 2016 had been audited we would have had the Democrats in Congress crying election fraud. Or just maybe Hillary would have won.

You should check to see how our elections are conducted. There are checks & balances throughout the process. Conducting audits in every election would be expensive, and redundant.

It's just silly. Our elections are fine. The only reason ANYONE thinks there is some sort of "rigging" is because a pathological liar who hates to lose said so. Even conservative commentators were mocking the claims behind the scenes, because it's so outlandish to think that anyone could rig a national election.

 

[ExpressLane]

I do, that's why it took 2 weeks+ to "count all the votes". That's because Trump won by much more than Democrats anticipated and had enough fake premade votes to beat on election night. Therefore they had to wait until they got the real numbers all in to cheat up

enough ballots over what they already had ready to go to make it look like Biden won. Otherwise the election results would have been finalized election night, like it has been for 200+ years.

No way did a candidate that couldn't fill 1/2 of a HS gym get the most votes in America ever.

Biden couldn't win class president at a high school.

Biden couldn't fill a nursing home cafeteria on spaghetti night.

 

[BartenderElite]

Biden couldn't fill a nursing home cafeteria on spaghetti night.

I always find this argument to be the most humorous.

Biden wasn't a great candidate - but worse candidates than him have filled huge arenas during election season. Dukakis, Dole, Kerry, Hillary. There are millions of partisans who will show up for rallies during Presidential campaigns, no matter who a party runs.

The idea that "there is no way Biden could have won - he didn't have rallies like Trump!" is something that I'd expect to hear from someone who has never seen an American political campaign before 2020.

 

[ExpressLane]

You should check to see how our elections are conducted. There are checks & balances throughout the process. Conducting audits in every election would be expensive, and redundant.

It's just silly. Our elections are fine. The only reason ANYONE thinks there is some sort of "rigging" is because a pathological liar who hates to lose said so. Even conservative commentators were mocking the claims behind the scenes, because it's so outlandish to think that anyone could rig a national election.

That is like GM or Ford saying our accountants would never commit fraud so we don't need an audit by outside accounting firm.

To rig a national election you only have to cast fraudulent votes in a few major Democrat controlled cities like Atlanta, Phoenix, Philadelphia , etc. Something like blanket mail-out ballots would help people that want to commit fraud.

 

[BartenderElite]

That is like GM or Ford saying our accountants would never commit fraud so we don't need an audit by outside accounting firm.

No. It's not like that at all.

I'm sure people WANT to rig a national election. But they can't. As Ben Franklin once reportedly said, 3 people can keep a secret - if 2 of them are dead.

There is mathematically no way that anyone could rig a national election, requiring people "in the know" at the state, county and precinct level in 6 states, and not have anything leaked.

 

[Matt Dillon]

I always find this argument to be the most humorous.

Biden wasn't a great candidate - but worse candidates than him have filled huge arenas during election season. Dukakis, Dole, Kerry, Hillary. There are millions of partisans who will show up for rallies during Presidential campaigns, no matter who a party runs.

The idea that "there is no way Biden could have won - he didn't have rallies like Trump!" is something that I'd expect to hear from someone who has never seen an American political campaign before 2020.

Biden never had a large crowd for anything.

Biden did not even campaign for the last 3 weeks of the election.

Because the fix was already in.

Actually you mean people who have seen many elections before 2020. If you have seen many elections before 2020, you realize that it was vastly different than all the others.

And actually it's not just me, I hear the same thing from people up to 90+ years old looking @ 100. Yeah.

People that were almost adults when Truman got elected.

People whose minds are sharp as a tack and not like Joe Biden.

 

[BartenderElite]

Biden did not even campaign for the last 3 weeks of the election.

Because the fix was already in.

That's simply false.

You can call what he did "virtue signaling" if you want, and I probably wouldn't dispute it - but he ran his campaign based on the Dem position regarding COVID, which was much more about avoiding large gatherings & distancing.

If you REALLY think he couldn't have filled arenas if he wanted to, you haven't seen any previous Presidential campaigns.

 

[ExpressLane]

I always find this argument to be the most humorous.

Biden wasn't a great candidate - but worse candidates than him have filled huge arenas during election season. Dukakis, Dole, Kerry, Hillary. There are millions of partisans who will show up for rallies during Presidential campaigns, no matter who a party runs.

The idea that "there is no way Biden could have won - he didn't have rallies like Trump!" is something that I'd expect to hear from someone who has never seen an American political campaign before 2020.

You just defeated your own argument.

 

[BartenderElite]

You just defeated your own argument.

Nah. That didn't happen.

 

[ExpressLane]

No. It's not like that at all.

I'm sure people WANT to rig a national election. But they can't. As Ben Franklin once reportedly said, 3 people can keep a secret - if 2 of them are dead.

There is mathematically no way that anyone could rig a national election, requiring people "in the know" at the state, county and precinct level in 6 states, and not have anything leaked.

There is STRONG evidence of ballot harvesting in states where it is illegal.