Is there a medical professional anywhere who says masks and distancing isn’t helpful,

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IRRELEVANT.


WRONG.

A person is a person, dude...

Oh, I get it, those protesting outside were invited by the President to be there, and knew that the President would like to see them on top of each other and not wearing masks, got it

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Saying "masks work" fifty times does not suddenly make them work. See my 'everything debunked' and my 'cult of the mask' signature links for why masks do not work.

What you offer doesn't come close to debunking anything, as I said, given enough time anybody can find enough sources to "debunk" anything, but that doesn't mean that they did, again, the internet makes it easy to create a false paradigm, which you are famous for

 

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Not sure what caused masks to miraculously start working against viruses but published medical studies pre hysteria concluded otherwise.

Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) "Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial", American Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 - 419.
N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches. Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds.
Cowling, B. et al. (2010) "Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review", Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. doi:10.1017/S0950268809991658
None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.
bin-Reza et al. (2012) "The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the scientific evidence", Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257-267.
"There were 17 eligible studies. [...] None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask ⁄ respirator use and protection against influenza infection."
Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis", CMAJ Mar 2016, cmaj.150835; DOI: 10.1503/cmaj.150835
"We identified 6 clinical studies ... In the meta-analysis of the clinical studies, we found no significant difference between N95 respirators and surgical masks in associated risk of (a) laboratory-confirmed respiratory infection, (b) influenza-like illness, or (c) reported work-place absenteeism."
Offeddu, V. et al. (2017) "Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis", Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934-1942, https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/cix681


Distancing works. Don't go to the grocery store.

It never ends, they find a dozen or so sites that supposedly debunks something and they run with the "alternative facts" and present it as valid, can't say it enough, the Internet makes it easy to just about find any source that will supposedly negate just about any fact, again, it is all just building a false paradigm

Overwhelmingly medical professionals recommend masks and distancing and now because someone offers half dozen opposing views it allegedly invalidates what medical professionals think, it doesn't

 

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It doesn’t matter lol.

No it doesn't, and certainly doesn't excuse Trump's lack of leadership exhibited last night

 

[Hawkeye10]

No it doesn't, and certainly doesn't excuse Trump's lack of leadership exhibited last night

Following the science is the right thing to do, I have no interest in wearing a mask for political purposes, to signify my submission to my would be masters.

 

[Althea]

Well, that’s it, a letter to the editor in something called the “River City Reader” proves masks don’t work, and I’m sure if one looked hard enough they’d also find some similar “proof” out there that distancing doesn’t work either, the Internet makes it easy to promote a false paradigm

I’ll go with the medical professions on the front line, there has to be a reason they not only recommend them but are seen wearing them everywhere they go

You don't have to go with anything that either side of the discussion 'says'. Simply look at the data from the Memorial Day super spreader events in Fla/Texas, trump's Tulsa Klan rally, and very soon the numbers from Sturgis.


Georgia forced children back to school. Now they've got a problem, and shut down the schools. In about 1 month, we'll see how all the staffers who sat for trump's propaganda show last night are doing.

 

[Darth Omar]

You don't have to go with anything that either side of the discussion 'says'. Simply look at the data from the Memorial Day super spreader events in Fla/Texas, trump's Tulsa Klan rally, and very soon the numbers from Sturgis.


Georgia forced children back to school. Now they've got a problem, and shut down the schools. In about 1 month, we'll see how all the staffers who sat for trump's propaganda show last night are doing.

Sturgis produced 70 positive tests lol.

 

[Althea]

Sturgis produced 70 positive tests lol.

Still laughing about the 61?

Sturgis was over less than two weeks ago. You realize the we're about to start seeing results? And to date, the count is much higher than 70.

You should start a thread about 'Sturgis cases jump to 70!!!!'.

See how that works out.

 

[Darth Omar]

Still laughing about the 61?

Sturgis was over less than two weeks ago. You realize the we're about to start seeing results? And to date, the count is much higher than 70.

You should start a thread about 'Sturgis cases jump to 70!!!!'.

See how that works out.

Ok, call it 150 *positive tests*.

Out of 250,000. How many positive tests do you think they’d get out a quarter million random people?

 

[Althea]

Ok, call it 150 *positive tests*.

Out of 250,000. How many positive tests do you think they’d get out a quarter million random people?

It hasn't been two weeks. How long did the Republican Memorial Day super spreader events take to bear the catastrophic results?

We're going to start by seeing results in the poor locals in Sturgis who voted against holding the event. The attendees are going to spread this across the nation, but I see that they are doing a pretty good job of tracing many who were there.

 

[canceled.2021.3]

yet in front of a national TV audience last night hundreds of Trump lemmings sat shoulder to shoulder few wearing masks for hours, you would think they would have learned something from Ben Carson, how’s that for sending mixed messages. And that was on top of telling Americans that there existed vaccines and treatments to cure COVID

Tell us again how Trump hasn’t f*cked up his response to the pandemic

Yes there is.

Logical fallacy thread, appeal to authority

If masks worked cases would be zero by now

 

[Grokmaster]

You don't have to go with anything that either side of the discussion 'says'. Simply look at the data from the Memorial Day super spreader events in Fla/Texas, trump's Tulsa Klan rally, and very soon the numbers from Sturgis.


Georgia forced children back to school. Now they've got a problem, and shut down the schools. In about 1 month, we'll see how all the staffers who sat for trump's propaganda show last night are doing.

THEN EXPLAIN THE CURRENT SURGING IN EUROPE . WHERE YOUR BELOVED EUROPEANS "DID EVERYTHING RIGHT".

THE VIRUS IS NOT LETHAL ENOUGH TO USE AS THE LEFT'S EXCUSE TO TRY TO CRUSH OUR ECONOMY...AGAIN.

AFFECTS LESS THAN 1% OF MOUR POPULATION, and is FATAL TO ONYL 1 in 400 OF THAT LESS THAN 1%.

ONLY 6% OF DEATHS LISTED AS "COVID DEATHS" ARE FROM COVID ALONE.

THE OTHER 94% HAD MULTIPLE MORBIDITIES; IOW...WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO..MASSIVELY.


AS THIS GETS AROUND FURTHER and FURTHER, AMERICANS WILL BE VERY PISSED OFF..MILLIONS OF THEM, AND IT AIN'T TRUMP AND THE GOP THEY'LL BE PISSED AT.

 

[AProudLefty]

I see that the parrot Into The Night has a sock account.

 

[The Anonymous]

Dr. Anonymous here!

 

[Lightbringer]

yet in front of a national TV audience last night hundreds of Trump lemmings sat shoulder to shoulder few wearing masks for hours, you would think they would have learned something from Ben Carson, how’s that for sending mixed messages. And that was on top of telling Americans that there existed vaccines and treatments to cure COVID

Tell us again how Trump hasn’t f*cked up his response to the pandemic

This is what happens when kids try to leave the children's table.

 

[Lightbringer]

yet in front of a national TV audience last night hundreds of Trump lemmings sat shoulder to shoulder few wearing masks for hours, you would think they would have learned something from Ben Carson, how’s that for sending mixed messages. And that was on top of telling Americans that there existed vaccines and treatments to cure COVID

Tell us again how Trump hasn’t f*cked up his response to the pandemic

It's not like the Rona is the plague. Just chill.

 

[Arks&sparka]

yet in front of a national TV audience last night hundreds of Trump lemmings sat shoulder to shoulder few wearing masks for hours, you would think they would have learned something from Ben Carson, how’s that for sending mixed messages. And that was on top of telling Americans that there existed vaccines and treatments to cure COVID

Tell us again how Trump hasn’t f*cked up his response to the pandemic

They're not helpful in stopping the spread. They just slow it down. The second we stop social distancing we're going to see a spike in cases. Do people think we should just social distance and wear masks forever?

 

[anonymoose]

It never ends, they find a dozen or so sites that supposedly debunks something and they run with the "alternative facts" and present it as valid, can't say it enough, the Internet makes it easy to just about find any source that will supposedly negate just about any fact, again, it is all just building a false paradigm

Overwhelmingly medical professionals recommend masks and distancing and now because someone offers half dozen opposing views it allegedly invalidates what medical professionals think, it doesn't

These aren't sites stupid. These are published medical articles.

 

[anatta]

THEN EXPLAIN THE CURRENT SURGING IN EUROPE . WHERE YOUR BELOVED EUROPEANS "DID EVERYTHING RIGHT". THE VIRUS IS NOT LETHAL ENOUGH TO USE AS THE LEFT'S EXCUSE TO TRY TO CRUSH OUR ECONOMY...AGAIN.AFFECTS LESS THAN 1% OF MOUR POPULATION, and is FATAL TO ONYL 1 in 400 OF THAT LESS THAN 1%.ONLY 6% OF DEATHS LISTED AS "COVID DEATHS" ARE FROM COVID ALONE.
THE OTHER 94% HAD MULTIPLE MORBIDITIES; IOW...WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO..MASSIVELY.

Althea is an idiot still harping on Memorial Day openings.
Idiots like Biden can't be trusted not to "listen to the scientists" and shut it down again

 

[Walt]

In a way, yes.

So if they don't look sick, you can't get AIDS from them (according to you)... More really bad health information from the Alt Right, the people who brought you there is no viral pneumonia, and masks do not work.