How about hundreds of thousands of high paying jobs.
Is the US Shale Boom Going Bust?
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How about hundreds of thousands of high paying jobs.
It is very seldom that I agree with Topper but I must say that I agree with him 100% here. This is the first thing I think of when we talk domestic oil or gas production...probably because I have seen a number of people around here have good careers in the field.
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"Hundreds of thousands" of new jobs is just a tad overstated.
cawacko
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If we have the opportunity to drill in America which we know will create new good paying jobs and will be better environmentally from a global perspective vs. say having the drilling done in Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia etc. which will not create good jobs in America and will not have as strict of environmental rules as the U.S. how is it not a benefit to do it within our country?
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MAGA MAN
Let's go Brandon!
No it's not, since one job in the drilling industry creates several more in service related jobs...
If you review the thread you'll notice that I haven't argued against increased domestic production.
Having said that, I think there is very little (if any) support for the argument that it is beneficial to the global environment for increased domestic fossil fuel production. I think increased production will harm local environments. Additionally, the employment increases are often overstated.
And we will not be energy independent.
So, yeah, maybe increased domestic production will have some benefits, but let's not get carried away. And, on balance, reasonable minds can disagree about whether to do it and, if so, how much.
MAGA MAN
Let's go Brandon!
Ever seen the building boom in Dubai?
We disagree a lot because you are poor and right wing, I'm not and I'm progressive
Really, you don't know dick
Lol...whatever you want to think, stoner. The last word in your post here...yes, that's cause for us to disagree most of the time.
Thanks flat earth mouth breather
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
I would be satisfied with an energy "less dependent" strategy.....
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The Almighty
That could be because your head is up your masters ass. Again... whose environmental controls do you think further the global environment better? Ours? Irans? Iraqs? Whose do WE control?
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Except that is precisely what you continue to do. You continue to pretend that there just isn't any real benefit for our doing so.
'Gee golly guys, there just isn't a reason to do it. So why bother?'... but yeah, he is not arguing against increasing domestic production.
We most certainly could be... if we could get idiots like you out of the way.
lmao 'some benefits'... it will have great benefits to doing so...
1) More jobs... not only the jobs created in this industry but also those created do to demand from an extra $600B staying in this country.
2) The money stays in the US economy vs. going to another country (we currently ship about $600B+ to other countries for energy)
3) Energy independence (and yes, we do have the ability to become energy independent)
4) Stronger environmental protections on US production vs. some of the foreign production
What GLOBAL (as opposed to local) environmental problems are caused by the extraction (as opposed to the use) of fossil fuels?
There isn't an environmental benefit.
Again, there isn't an environmental benefit. Employment benefits are overstated, not non-existent.
Not really. We use too much and don't produce enough, particularly when it comes to liquid fuels. Here's a chart:
Uh, you have, like, one legitimate point there (1 and 2 are the same thing, while 3 and 4 are nonsense for reasons already stated).
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The Almighty
There are none... none at all... nor are there any in the transportation of fossil fuels... which is why Keystone is pre-approved by environmental groups.
The transport of fossil fuels through pipelines poses localized enviromental concerns where the pipelines are located, not global environmental concerns. Try again.
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So environmental standards are the same for US production and production in Venezuela? Iraq? Iran? Saudi? etc...? Ok Dung.
Oh yeah, I forgot... there isn't a benefit because Dung thinks all environmental standards are the same world wide.
No dung... employment benefits are not over stated, if anything they are understated. Because for the most part people reporting on the jobs are just looking at the oil/gas industries when discussing the issue. Not looking at the ancillary benefits.
Not really. We use too much and don't produce enough, particularly when it comes to liquid fuels. Here's a chart:
Awww... so cute... dung has a chart about what we CURRENTLY do. So good to have dung here to tell us that our CURRENT production is not enough to make us energy independent. WHO KNEW?
Uh... yeah... you are fucking retarded. 1 and 2 are certainly related, but they are not the same. We benefit in jobs created here and those jobs keep the money here. But number 2 is different as it addresses the fact that other countries benefit from our not producing everything we can here. 3 is not nonsense. You haven't shown a thing in support of your bullshit position. Your SAYING it can't happen doesn't make it true.
On 4... again... tell us Dung... are environmental protections the same worldwide when it comes to production/distribution?
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also dung... you have a link for your energy chart estimate?