Is the United States unraveling?

If one of the parties refuses to accept democratic elections it is going to be difficult to run any sort of system, particularly if they are determined to paralyse any government but their own. It begins to look more and more if it might be better to kick out the more extreme nazi states is the US wants to survive.
 
you must be joking.

Trump is preventing The President Elect access to information and funding the transition that every President before was given.

The election isn't over yet. Have you forgotten what the Obozo administration did to the incoming Trump administration?
 
And they let it all play out. You can try and spin this and you will still lose.

This is different. Its 4 states and more than 50,000 votes. Its clear there is a different motive here, Trump is trying to do an endrun on the will of the people. He is trying to run out the clock, prevent the votes from being certified and get himself appointed.
 
This is different. Its 4 states and more than 50,000 votes. Its clear there is a different motive here, Trump is trying to do an endrun on the will of the people. He is trying to run out the clock, prevent the votes from being certified and get himself appointed.

No. He is asking for what the law allows. If Democrats have nothing to hide they should be all in for this to get it over with quickly.
 
This is different. Its 4 states and more than 50,000 votes. Its clear there is a different motive here, Trump is trying to do an endrun on the will of the people. He is trying to run out the clock, prevent the votes from being certified and get himself appointed.

Fake ballots are not the people.
 
WE could let the poor states like Alabama and Mississippi and South Carolina make a go of it on their own and see what happens. The wealthy states would be much more prosperous.

I think that is the thing that trump worshipers do not get, they are not contributing. They are poor, and getting poorer. They are refusing to take care of their health. They are bringing down our life expectancy. We are willing to help them become better people, but they have to do a lot of the work themselves. It is easier for us not to help.
 
What changes are you proposing?

We could have universal healthcare, and education for everyone who can use it, like most of the first world. You could have a more Somalian lifestyle free of government. We could divide along those lines. If Somalia and you do well, there will be no one in the world happier than me.
 
I'm for it. I've long advocated for a confederacy similar to Switzerland cantons.

We already have that, except worse. We cannot allow freedom of movement like in Switzerland if you will not take care of basic minimums. You people cannot be allowed to steal our healthcare, when you refuse to pay for your own.
 
I think that to cut out whole statesful of traitors rather shoot them down is the most civilised answer, since they are so determined to sabotage all legal government.
 
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