Is Islamic rhetoric to blame?

[Seahawk]

Imam who called for execution of gays preached at Orlando-area mosque weeks before massacre

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/1...rlando-area-mosque-weeks-before-massacre.html

Could this rhetoric have pushed the guy over the edge? I've seen less vitriol from the right be blamed for many shootings, like the Congresswoman from AZ.

 

[moon]

When asked about his alleged comments in March in Orlando regarding gays, Sekaleshfar chalked it up to “academic discussion” and that he was describing a “theoretical angle as to what Islam says.”

I guess you didn't read beyond the headline of your own link.

 

[Teflon Don]

How dare you blame a muslime for this you islamophobe

Haven't you read Darcula, GayRod and Toxic Titties posts? This was a frustrated queer who was not religious at all and beat his wife. He was a white afghanny

 

[Seahawk]

I guess you didn't read beyond the headline of your own link.

Of course he would claim that. But his words were clear. Also, it is quite possible Omar heard his words and took them to heart.

I can't believe you would apologize for his words.

 

[Seahawk]

I guess you didn't read beyond the headline of your own link.

“Death is the sentence. There’s nothing to be embarrassed about this. Death is the sentence,” Sekaleshfar said during a 2013 sermon at the University of Michigan, according to Orlando-based WFTV 9. “We have to have that compassion for people. With homosexuals, it’s the same. Out of compassion, let’s get rid of them now.”

 

[moon]

Of course he would claim that. But his words were clear. Also, it is quite possible Omar heard his words and took them to heart.

I can't believe you would apologize for his words.

What ' words ' are you talking about ? The Fox news/ Orlando-based WFTV 9 interpretation of what might have been said ' behind closed doors ' ? Repeat ' the words ', please.

 

[Seahawk]

“It’s appalling. In fact, it’s inciting violence against gays, and I find that reprehensible,” Alan Kornman, an Orlando resident, told Channel 9 News at the time.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/13/farrokh-sekaleshfar-imam-speaking-orlando-said-gay/

 

[Seahawk]

What ' words ' are you talking about ? The Fox news interpretation of what might have been said ' behind closed doors ' ? Repeat ' the words ', please.

“Death is the sentence. There’s nothing to be embarrassed about this. Death is the sentence,” Sekaleshfar said during a 2013 sermon at the University of Michigan, according to Orlando-based WFTV 9. “We have to have that compassion for people. With homosexuals, it’s the same. Out of compassion, let’s get rid of them now.”

 

[moon]

The guy himself said- " When asked about his alleged comments in March in Orlando regarding gays, Sekaleshfar chalked it up to “academic discussion” and that he was describing a “theoretical angle as to what Islam says.”

How come you know what the guy said better than the guy who said it ? Because you watch Fox news ?

 

[Seahawk]

LOL.

You blindly believe him when in the past he has outright called for their execution, but this time, just coincidentally, after a massacre, it becomes theoretical.

You're free to believe that, but I don't and that is based on his past rhetoric. Of course he can claim he said anything and after this you think he will admit it?

“Death is the sentence. There’s nothing to be embarrassed about this. Death is the sentence,” Sekaleshfar said during a 2013 sermon at the University of Michigan, according to Orlando-based WFTV 9. “We have to have that compassion for people. With homosexuals, it’s the same. Out of compassion, let’s get rid of them now.”

 

[moon]

So show us his ' past rhetoric ' along with proof that it's his.

 

[Seahawk]

I've cited it three times you imbecile. I even bolded it the last time.

 

[moon]

I've cited it three times you imbecile. I even bolded it the last time.

You've posted the Fox news version, numbnuts- and ' past rhetoric ' can't relate to the disputed rhetoric if it's the same rhetoric .

 

[Seahawk]

 

[anatta]

it becomes "theoretical" after a massacre and he's called on it ..uh huh.

 

[moon]

Simple contextomy presented to feed Islamophobes. The guy states that he relates ' theoretical angles ' . If there was any evidence that he was calling for the murder of gays then you can bet your missing frontal lobes that it would be in that clip.

 

[Seahawk]

Simple contextomy presented to feed Islamophobes. The guy states that he relates ' theoretical angles ' . If there was any evidence that he was calling for the murder of gays then you can bet your missing frontal lobes that it would be in that clip.

What does death is the sentence mean? "There is nothing to be embarrassed about this." What does that mean?

 

[moon]

What does death is the sentence mean? "There is nothing to be embarrassed about this." What does that mean?

You'll have to ask Fox News.

 

[moon]

Jewish Voice for Peace


We light candles, say prayers, and hold each other close.

But many politicians and media don’t allow us even our devastation and grief. Too many have refused to acknowledge the role that the homophobic, transphobic, and racist political context of this country plays in creating such tragedy.

Instead, many have used this tragedy to demonize Muslim communities, and all those perceived as Muslim, including LGBTQ members of those communities. This Islamophobia is incredibly dangerous and leads to increased violence and harassment of communities already under attack.

And so, as we light our candles we must also raise our voices, and take to the streets. As LGBTQ people and allies, we rise with the Orlando community and with queer communities across the country. We know we have to fight homophobia, transphobia, racism and Islamophobia at once.

https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

Amen to that

 

[Seahawk]

You'll have to ask Fox News.

Those were his words and you can't give an opinion on unambiguous words? But you can certainly know he didn't say it, right?