Is health insurance a "right"?

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Obama used his weekly address to describe health insurance as a “right”


“In the United States of America, health insurance isn’t a privilege, it is your right."




http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/17/obama-uses-radio-address-describe-health-insurance/#ixzz2cEvz3ezk
 
Health care is a right to any civilized people in any modern country. What could anyone be thinking who would question that? And of course that means that it needs to be affordable to all the people, otherwise they would be without it. When will America throw out the decadent 19th. century thinking and do what is necessary. Obamacare for a start but more because the very wealthy have watered it down to suit their agendas of greed.
luv from Canada.
 
Patrician said:
Health insurance is a right? Is it supposed to be given without charge to anyone?
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Life, liberty, and happiness usually aren't free. But it's the duty of government to make them all available to all citizens. Hence, Obamacare to update the U.S. medieval system.

What's the alternative? Dying in the streets? Dying of curable diseases? Suffering with mendable injuries?
 
Patrician said:
Health insurance is a right? Is it supposed to be given without charge to anyone?
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No. Let them die in the streets if they can't pay, it would create dead body pick-up jobs. The wealthy are chosen by God and should be the only people with healthcare. If you can't afford the inflated prices then just go die. But please, go do it somewhere else out of our sight.

Republican healthcare plan...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/30/alan-grayson-republicans_n_303996.html


The herd always needs to be trimmed. It's their own fault they're dying, not being wealthy and chosen by God and all.
 
Crashk said:
No. Let them die in the streets if they can't pay, it would create dead body pick-up jobs. The wealthy are chosen by God and should be the only people with healthcare. If you can't afford the inflated prices then just go die. But please, go do it somewhere else out of our sight.

Republican healthcare plan...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/30/alan-grayson-republicans_n_303996.html


The herd always needs to be trimmed. It's their own fault they're dying, not being wealthy and chosen by God and all.
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You would probably need to provide body depositories for dead Americans. Say maybe big furnaces where dead bodies can be bulldozed into them. Otherwise the whole country would start to smell a lot worse than it does already.

Unless the strangle hold on progress that the Republicans are intent on keeping going, that's surely the end result. Mexico is a good example of what extreme rightist government can do for a country.
 
monty1 said:
Life, liberty, and happiness usually aren't free. But it's the duty of government to make them all available to all citizens. Hence, Obamacare to update the U.S. medieval system. What's the alternative? Dying in the streets? Dying of curable diseases? Suffering with mendable injuries?
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Are you claiming that health insurance is not available in the US?
 
monty1 said:
You would probably need to provide body depositories for dead Americans. Say maybe big furnaces where dead bodies can be bulldozed into them. Otherwise the whole country would start to smell a lot worse than it does already.

Unless the strangle hold on progress that the Republicans are intent on keeping going, that's surely the end result. Mexico is a good example of what extreme rightist government can do for a country.
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Why wait until their dead? Transportation costs of the dead bodies could be overcome if the nearly-dead and infirm walked to the ovens.
Conservatives make me sick, but I ain't dying.
 
Patrician said:
Are you claiming that health insurance is not available in the US?
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Healthcare is only for the wealthy. If your job is outsourced to China and you lose your healthcare and the only jobs you can find are part-time or doesn't have healthcare for employees then you are fucked. So yes, health insurance is not available to millions in the US.
 
Patrician said:
Are you claiming that health insurance is not available in the US?
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Of course not. Health insurance can be bought by anyone. You just need to be able to afford the cost. And then when you buy that which is affordable to you then you end up having to pay for the health care anyway if it's beyond the coverage affordable.

Health 'care' that includes all modern treatments for medical problems need to be affordable to everyone. Obamacare will eventually bring that with a little luck because once the middle class and poor get a taste of freedom they will never stop demanding what is rightfully theirs.

All you Americans know you have a big problem so why keep denying it. Even the Republican party itself was for something more inclusive and fair than what Obamacare will provide before it started it's destructive politics to destroy the black guy.

You're a nation of fucking losers and the world is laughing at you.

And attempting to vilify Canada's and the rest of the modern world's systems just doesn't work anymore.
 
Why can't you understand that for-profit healthcare for the rich only is immoral?

hmmmm... maybe it has something to do with conservative beliefs that wealth and property is more important that people or country.

I'm outta here... Go Rattlers!
 
Crashk said:
Why can't you understand that for-profit healthcare for the rich only is immoral? hmmmm... maybe it has something to do with conservative beliefs that wealth and property is more important that people or country.
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Nice strawmen.

Who decided that providing services and thereby making a profit is "immoral"? You?
 
it is the height of stupidity to believe that health INSURANCE or health care is a right. by it's very nature and how it works should be enough evidence to show it isn't.
 
Patrician said:
Health insurance is a right? Is it supposed to be given without charge to anyone?
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The oath Doctors take before getting their license clearly states they are to heal the sick and injured.

HOWEVER, no mention is made of any sort of monetary payment being made BEFORE they heal the sick and injured.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
The oath Doctors take before getting their license clearly states they are to heal the sick and injured.
HOWEVER, no mention is made of any sort of monetary payment being made BEFORE they heal the sick and injured.
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So your contention is that doctors must treat people for free?
 
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