Is an ID required?

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When a transaction takes place between private (unlicensed) persons who reside in the same State, the Gun Control Act (GCA) does not require any record keeping. A private person may sell a firearm to another private individual in his or her State of residence and, similarly, a private individual may buy a firearm from another private person who resides in the same State. It is not necessary under Federal law for a Federal firearms licensee (FFL) to assist in the sale or transfer when the buyer and seller are “same-State” residents. Of course, the transferor/seller may not knowingly transfer a firearm to someone who falls within any of the categories of prohibited persons contained in the GCA. See 18 U.S.C. §§ 922(g) and (n). However, as stated above, there are no GCA-required records to be completed by either party to the transfer.



http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html#private-record-keeping
 
the facts are clear.

ANYONE who supports the voter ID laws inlight of the facts on the table supports making us something other than a democracy.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
the same way I'd buy a toolbox at a garage sale. see it, like it, buy it.
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Is the purchase of toolboxes at a garage sale subject to the same requirements as firearm purchases?

So either you show ID when you buy a toolbox at a garage sale, or you buy guns illegally, or you're lying.

Which is it?
 
\\(())// said:
Is the purchase of toolboxes at a garage sale subject to the same requirements as firearm purchases?

So either you show ID when you buy a toolbox at a garage sale, or you buy guns illegally, or you're lying.

Which is it?
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wtf are you talking about? the law you posted says I do not need an ID if I buy a firearm from a private individual. so yes, buying a toolbox at a garage sale has the same ID requirements as buying a pistol from my neighbor. none.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
wtf are you talking about? the law you posted says I do not need an ID if I buy a firearm from a private individual. so yes, buying a toolbox at a garage sale has the same ID requirements as buying a pistol from my neighbor. none.
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So you can buy a gun with no ID, but Texas Republicans say you must show a picture ID (in addition to being legally registered) to vote?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
wtf are you talking about? the law you posted says I do not need an ID if I buy a firearm from a private individual. so yes, buying a toolbox at a garage sale has the same ID requirements as buying a pistol from my neighbor. none.
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I don't think they understand what they read.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
why didn't you post the texas law for voting with an ID?
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More than one million students attend colleges, universities and technical schools in Texas.

But because of the state's new voter identification law, none will be allowed to use their student ID cards to cast a ballot.

When Texas state legislators moved to cut student IDs from the list of acceptable voter identifications in May, they actually made voting easier for some residents: Now gun owners in Texas are allowed to use their concealed-carry permits as valid proof of the right to vote.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/15/texans-gun-permits-student-ids-voting_n_1095530.html
 
oh yeah, perry's 'emergency' item. we saw this coming after the last election. It's one of the reasons why I voted against my state rep Todd Smith.....again.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
oh yeah, perry's 'emergency' item. we saw this coming after the last election. It's one of the reasons why I voted against my state rep Todd Smith.....again.
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How'd you get to vote?

A voter who has not been issued a driver’s license or social security number may register to vote, but such voter must submit proof of identification when presenting himself/herself for voting or with his/her mail-in ballots, if voting by mail. These voters’ names are flagged on the official voter registration list with the annotation of “ID.” The “ID” notation instructs the poll worker to request a proper form of identification from these voters when they present themselves for voting. Acceptable identification includes:
  • a driver's license or personal identification card issued to the person by the Department of Public Safety or a similar document issued to the person by an agency of another state, regardless of whether the license or card has expired;
  • a form of identification containing the person's photograph that establishes the person's identity;
  • a birth certificate or other document confirming birth that is admissible in a court of law and establishes the person's identity;
  • United States citizenship papers issued to the person;
  • a United States passport issued to the person;
  • official mail addressed to the person by name from a governmental entity;
  • a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter; or
  • any other form of identification prescribed by the Secretary of State.
http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/pamphlets/largepamp.shtml
 
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