IRS Data Shows: "The Rich" Pay Higher Rates

The Dude said:
Another talking point gobbled like a good global warmer!
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Not exactly, an Obama talking point, the link is quoting Forbes magazine, but the year is 2009.

Your figures are $31 Billion in 2012
You are also claiming that they paid $31 Billion in 2011
And that they paid $21 Billion in 2010

So Forbes could have been correct in saying that they paid $0 taxes in 2009!

In other words, what they paid in these three years you are talking about does not preclude what they may have paid in another year!
 
Dantès said:
Not exactly, an Obama talking point, the link is quoting Forbes magazine, but the year is 2009.

Your figures are $31 Billion in 2012
You are also claiming that they paid $31 Billion in 2011
And that they paid $21 Billion in 2010

So Forbes could have been correct in saying that they paid $0 taxes in 2009!

In other words, what they paid in these three years you are talking about does not preclude what they may have paid in another year!
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2009 might have been paying a lot more for crude if my memory serves.
At least it's very dishonest if not lying to paint the highest taxpayer as a thief, but effective scheme I guess
 
AssHatZombie said:
Not really. you;re just entitled to sell your stock for the stock price. that's it.
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So how would that work? Let's say for instance The Dude owns every share of Ford and at the end of the year says to the board "Distribute all profits this year to the shareholders."

Then suppose the board says "no."

Who puts the board the place?

Answer: The shareholders.... which in this case would be the Dude, who'd call for a new vote and put his own people in.
 
The Dude said:
I laugh; only because I didn't own gm bonds!
Ever want to know what it's like to be a theft victim, ask a gm bond holder.
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Thanks for reminding... we can add this to ILA's list of executive branch legislating.

Obama rewrote bankruptcy law.
 
Taft2016 said:
Yes they are. I'm part of them, and so are millions more Americans.

Why tax the same money twice?

Does your greed know no limits?

Look at the numbers. The most profitable enterprise in this country is government... even if we're talking about oil, gasoline, or tobacco.

And they suck at that too. The deck is stacked in their favor and still they're still flat broke.
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Silly leftists think that the Government knows better how to spend our money than we do; yes, they really are THAT stupid.
 
Taft2016 said:
Ordinary people like me own Coca Cola, Caterpillar, Clorox, Merck, Pfizer, etc. And then through mutual funds, 401Ks, pension funds, etc....many more corporations we don't even realize.

You are trying to bend reality to fit your preconception that corporations are faceless entities, when in reality everyday Americans like you and I own them.
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Then it all ties together nicely. Corporations owned by Americans are part of the "Forty-seven percent of Americans [who] pay no income tax", according to Mitt Rmoney.
 
christiefan915 said:
Then it all ties together nicely. Corporations owned by Americans are part of the "Forty-seven percent of Americans [who] pay no income tax", according to Mitt Rmoney.
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Truth and reality work well together.

The war against corporations is really a war against Americans who practice self-sufficiency, live responsibly, and plan for the future. Liberals would prefer a population of drones desperately pulling ballot levers out a desperate need for government handouts. Corporations and their shareholders stand in the way.

Of course, destroying the currency, running up impossible debts, and collapsing the economy around the corporations is an alternate route being pursued.

As the environmental whack-a-doodles would say, it's easier to destroy than to preserve.
 
Taft2016 said:
Truth and reality work well together.

The war against corporations is really a war against Americans who practice self-sufficiency, live responsibly, and plan for the future. Liberals would prefer a population of drones desperately pulling ballot levers out a desperate need for government handouts. Corporations and their shareholders stand in the way.

Of course, destroying the currency, running up impossible debts, and collapsing the economy around the corporations is an alternate route being pursued.

As the environmental whack-a-doodles would say, it's easier to destroy than to preserve.
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Too funny, the implication that "Americans who practice self-sufficiency, live responsibly, and plan for the future" can't be liberals, coupled with the delusion that all liberals want is more government handouts.

Some time spent actually researching liberals rather than spouting RW memes will improve your arguments immensely.
 
Taft2016 said:
Truth and reality work well together.

The war against corporations is really a war against Americans who practice self-sufficiency, live responsibly, and plan for the future. Liberals would prefer a population of drones desperately pulling ballot levers out a desperate need for government handouts. Corporations and their shareholders stand in the way.

Of course, destroying the currency, running up impossible debts, and collapsing the economy around the corporations is an alternate route being pursued.

As the environmental whack-a-doodles would say, it's easier to destroy than to preserve.
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No. It's a war against legal abstractions that provide cover for a greedy short term kind of thinking that destroys the lives of the majority of americans to benefit a few soulless assmunchers.
 
AssHatZombie said:
No. It's a war against legal abstractions that provide cover for a greedy short term kind of thinking that destroys the lives of the majority of americans to benefit a few soulless assmunchers.
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In the Brave New World, apparently working to take care of oneself is now defined as "greedy."
 
christiefan915 said:
Too funny, the implication that "Americans who practice self-sufficiency, live responsibly, and plan for the future" can't be liberals, coupled with the delusion that all liberals want is more government handouts.

Some time spent actually researching liberals rather than spouting RW memes will improve your arguments immensely.
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Working counter to one's own interests is a sign of neither sanity nor intelligence.
 
Taft2016 said:
In the Brave New World, apparently working to take care of oneself is now defined as "greedy."
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Ever notice that a fry cook wanting higher income for him or herself is lauded as "noble" by the same folks who think shareholders wanting higher income for themselves is"ignoble"?
 
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