Iran's Right to Exist -- Missing from Obama's warmongering

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The Force is With Me
“Where Bush would be vilified, Obama will be lionized for committing the same acts of aggression.”

Citizens of the Islamic Republic of Iran have the right to live without fear of sanctions, military attack, and destruction at the hands of the United States. The Iranian government has the right to enrich uranium, launch satellites, build missiles or even to develop nuclear weapons. It has these rights of self-determination freely exercised by other nations, regardless of American, European or Israeli opinion.

The United States does not have the right to wage or even to threaten war against Iran, or to tell bald-faced lies about nonexistent threats. These lies are particularly egregious given the United States’ long history of invading, destabilizing or occupying many foreign countries, including Iran, all over the world.

This week president Obama announced changes to the Bush era missile defense plan for Europe. Media reports gave the impression that missile defense plans were being scrapped, when instead the number of proposed missile sites will actually expand from central Europe to include southern and northern Europe as well. In typically Obamaesque fashion, the president spoke as though a great positive change was taking place when the threat posed by the American military industrial complex has only increased.

“The premise of an Iranian threat is made up out of whole cloth.”

Obama, sounding like a Bush administration appointee instead of a Democratic president, claimed that Europe was in grave danger from Iranian missiles. He even quoted George W. Bush for good measure.

“As I said during the campaign, President Bush was right that Iran's ballistic missile program poses a significant threat. And that's why I'm committed to deploying strong missile defense systems which are adaptable to the threats of the 21st century.”

The premise of an Iranian threat is made up out of whole cloth. The whole point of this diplomatic sleight of hand is to mollify Russia and make it easier for Iran’s putative ally to march in lock step and support United Nations sanctions or even military action against Iran should America demand it.
It is not Obama-like to openly threaten military action as the Bush administration did, or to engage in provocative acts so clumsy that even the corporate media refuse to go along with the amateurish ruses. Instead Barack Obama proposes a missile defense system that removes the threat from Russia’s back yard and simultaneously whispers sweet nothings about Iran not being so important after all.

Americans should not be fooled into following the Russia-is-our-enemy line. The unipolar world with the U.S. as the only superpower poses a grave threat to world peace.The rights of all humanity are protected when nations like Russia are strong enough to keep Uncle Sam in his place.

“The unipolar world with the U.S. as the only superpower poses a grave threat to world peace.”

Iranians are deeply divided over the direction of their country and it isn’t clear whether the government has the support of a majority of its population or what Iranians see as the issues of contention. In any case, despite the Iranian’s own revelations of human rights abuses and torture of anti-government protesters, the principle of non-interference must still apply.

It is up to Iranians to do the difficult work of determining what kind of government they will have, but concerned world citizens should not be silent when protesters are shot or imprisoned. The right to seek redress of grievances is one of the most treasured among people of conscience all over the globe. It is possible to condemn these abuses without also supporting the American government’s efforts to bully the rest of the world into submission and impose what always turns out to be a disastrous situation in every country it claims to be helping.

Likewise, President Ahmadinejad’s comments regarding the founding of Israel and its connection to the Nazi genocide against European Jews should not be used as a justification for war or as an excuse for American mischief. The use of objectionable words is never as bad as the use of bombs and bullets. Whatever the explanation for his remarks, they do not give the United States the right to overthrow an Iranian government for the second time in history.

“The use of objectionable words is never as bad as the use of bombs and bullets.”

A smooth, intelligent president can be more dangerous than a blustering, boorish one. Obama knows how to make his arguments and pick his fights. Where Bush would be vilified, Obama will be lionized for committing the same acts of aggression. It isn’t hard to imagine Obama successfully making the case for another violation of international law. Unfortunately, it is hard to imagine progressives speaking up against him.

The rights of other peoples ought to be respected, instead of deeply ingrained notions about American supremacy. These notions make Americans a very dangerous group indeed, but the sooner they forsake those beliefs, the better off the world will be.
http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/freedom-rider-iran’s-right-exist
 
“Where Bush would be vilified, Obama will be lionized for committing the same acts of aggression.”

Citizens of the Islamic Republic of Iran Jewish State Israel, have the right to live without fear of sanctions, military attack, and destruction at the hands of the United States insane leaders of Iran. The Iranian government has the right to enrich uranium, launch satellites, build missiles or even to develop nuclear weapons something useful for mankind. It has these rights of self-determination freely exercised by other nations, regardless of American, European or Israeli opinion.

The United States, nor any other country, does not have the right to wage or even to threaten war against Iran any country, or to tell bald-faced lies about nonexistent threats. These imaginary lies would be particularly egregious, the United States’ long history of invading, destabilizing or occupying many foreign countries, including Iran, all over waged aggression anywhere in the world, for other than defensive reasons.

This week president Obama announced changes to the Bush era missile defense plan for Europe. Media reports gave the impression that missile defense plans were being scrapped, which would be idiotic, when the US will instead expand the number of proposed defensive missile sites, and will and will go from central Europe to southern and northern Europe . In typically Obamaesque fashion, the president spoke as though a great positive change was taking place when the threat posed TO the American population and their allies has only increased.

“The premise of an Iranian threat is made up out of whole cloth expressed by their insane leader on a daily basis.”

Obama, sounding like a Bush administration appointee instead of a Democratic president, claimed that Europe was in grave danger from Iranian missiles. He even quoted George W. Bush for good measure.

“As I said during the campaign, President Bush was right that Iran's ballistic missile program poses a significant threat. And that's why I'm committed to deploying strong missile defense systems which are adaptable to the threats of the 21st century.”

The premise of an Iranian threat is made up out of whole cloth. The whole point of this diplomatic sleight of hand is to mollify Russia and make it easier for Iran’s putative ally to march in lock step and support United Nations sanctions or even military action against Iran should America demand it.
It is not Obama-like to openly threaten military action as the Bush administration did, or to engage in provocative acts so clumsy that even the corporate media refuse to go along with the amateurish ruses. Instead Barack Obama proposes a missile defense system that removes the threat from Russia’s back yard and simultaneously whispers sweet nothings about Iran not being so important after all.

Americans should not be fooled into following the Russia-is-our-enemy line. The unipolar world with the U.S. as the only superpower poses a grave threat to world peace.The rights of all humanity are protected when nations like Russia are strong enough to keep Uncle Sam in his place.

“The unipolar world with the U.S. as the only superpower poses a grave threat to world peace.”

Iranians are deeply divided over the direction of their country and it isn’t clear whether the government has the support of a majority of its population or what Iranians see as the issues of contention. In any case, despite the Iranian’s own revelations of human rights abuses and torture of anti-government protesters, the principle of non-interference must still apply.

It is up to Iranians to do the difficult work of determining what kind of government they will have, but concerned world citizens should not be silent when protesters are shot or imprisoned. The right to seek redress of grievances is one of the most treasured among people of conscience all over the globe. It is possible to condemn these abuses without also supporting the American government’s efforts to bully the rest of the world into submission and impose what always turns out to be a disastrous situation in every country it claims to be helping.

Likewise, President Ahmadinejad’s comments regarding the founding of Israel and its connection to the Nazi genocide against European Jews should not be used as a justification for war or as an excuse for American mischief. The use of objectionable words is never as bad as the use of bombs and bullets. Whatever the explanation for his remarks, they do not give the United States the right to overthrow an Iranian government for the second time in history.

“The use of objectionable words is never as bad as the use of bombs and bullets.”

A smooth, intelligent president can be more dangerous than a blustering, boorish one. Obama knows how to make his arguments and pick his fights. Where Bush would be vilified, Obama will be lionized for committing the same acts of aggression. It isn’t hard to imagine Obama successfully making the case for another violation of international law. Unfortunately, it is hard to imagine progressives speaking up against him.

The rights of other peoples ought to be respected, instead of deeply ingrained notions about American supremacy. These notions make Americans a very dangerous group indeed, but the sooner they forsake those beliefs, the better off the world will be.

Ridiculous nonsense and redundant bullshit posted by nutty radical, crossed out by US free thinking patriot....
 
I tend to agree. I don't know which I find more frightening. Iran with nuclear weapons or the fact that we have so many nut case wacko extremist like Bravo in this country. I guess people like Bravo wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't for they are so clueless about what it means to be an American.
 
The ignorance of the American people is truly astounding. An absolute amazing wonder to behold.

NO ability to debate or even recognize truth or fact. NO ability to seperate the real world from the Hollywood/Matrix version.

I didn't post this thinking there would be actual debate spawned from it. Posted it to illustrate that neither democrat nor republican is free from the mindfuck and cognitive dissonance that controls them.

Anyone want to start from Iran has recent historical reason to fear the US and it's puppets?

How about Iran has the right to develop nuclear energy and self-defense?

Didn't think so.

Thanks for playing.
 
Iran has a long list of valid reasons to hate the USA.

That's correct .. but of course the nation with the most nuclear weapons on the planet .. and the biggest arms dealer the world has ever known .. and the ONLY nation to actually ever use nukes .. twice .. should be the judge of whether a country where we overthrew their democratically elected government should be allowed to develop weapons to protect themselves against us.
 
That's correct .. but of course the nation with the most nuclear weapons on the planet .. and the biggest arms dealer the world has ever known .. and the ONLY nation to actually ever use nukes .. twice .. should be the judge of whether a country where we overthrew their democratically elected government should be allowed to develop weapons to protect themselves against us.

Yup
 
I tend to agree. I don't know which I find more frightening. Iran with nuclear weapons or the fact that we have so many nut case wacko extremist like Bravo in this country. I guess people like Bravo wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't for they are so clueless about what it means to be an American.

there's a difference.....the reason you don't understand it is that you are clueless about what it means to be fried in a nuclear explosion.....
 
The ignorance of the American people is truly astounding. An absolute amazing wonder to behold.

NO ability to debate or even recognize truth or fact. NO ability to seperate the real world from the Hollywood/Matrix version.

I didn't post this thinking there would be actual debate spawned from it. Posted it to illustrate that neither democrat nor republican is free from the mindfuck and cognitive dissonance that controls them.

Anyone want to start from Iran has recent historical reason to fear the US and it's puppets?

How about Iran has the right to develop nuclear energy and self-defense?

Didn't think so.

Thanks for playing.

No one has stated that Iran doesn't have the right to produce nuclear energy.

That said, did they or did they not sign the non-proliferation treaty?

The answer is... yes... they did

Did the leadership of Iran threaten to wipe another country off of the map?

The answer is... yes... they did

But I know... none of that matters, they are harmless... just trying to defend themselves... right???
 
That's correct .. but of course the nation with the most nuclear weapons on the planet .. and the biggest arms dealer the world has ever known .. and the ONLY nation to actually ever use nukes .. twice .. should be the judge of whether a country where we overthrew their democratically elected government should be allowed to develop weapons to protect themselves against us.

I love how you continue to pretend that it is just the US that is 'deciding' who gets to have nukes. I guess the treaty signed by all but four countries has no meaning? The UN isn't upset that Iran appears to be violating that treaty? Europe isn't upset? China not worried? Russia?

No... its just the US. right?
 
I agree with me...and you defenders of Iran need your friggin' heads examined.

The whole world knows Iran is lead by insane Holocaust deniers...and nuts that want the Jews annihilated from the face of the earth...

Ahmadinejad is as frigin' crazy as Muammar Al-Gaddafi.
 
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No one has stated that Iran doesn't have the right to produce nuclear energy.

That said, did they or did they not sign the non-proliferation treaty?

The answer is... yes... they did

Did the leadership of Iran threaten to wipe another country off of the map?

The answer is... yes... they did

But I know... none of that matters, they are harmless... just trying to defend themselves... right???

They have a right to defend themselves against any weapons their adversaries have .. period, point blank. That's how the world works whether you like it or not.

How many times has the US violated international treaties? C'mon, take a guess.

Has Isreal declared its nuclear capacity that the whole world knows that it has?

This has ZERO to do with the protection of the US and everything to do with Washington, DC being Israeli-occupied territory .. and the world knows that as well.
 
I love how you continue to pretend that it is just the US that is 'deciding' who gets to have nukes. I guess the treaty signed by all but four countries has no meaning? The UN isn't upset that Iran appears to be violating that treaty? Europe isn't upset? China not worried? Russia?

No... its just the US. right?

It's the US doing all the tough talking .. and obviously you aren't aware of how much disagreement there is thoughout the world on Iran .. nor do you seem aware that unless Russia, China, and the SCO agree with the US position .. and they never will .. sanctions will not work.

There is disagreement on US bluster from within Germany, France, and even England.

How about giving up the pretense and just argue from a position of "we get to tell the world what to do."

That would make more sense .. in a non-sensical kinda' way.
 
They have a right to defend themselves against any weapons their adversaries have .. period, point blank. That's how the world works whether you like it or not.

How many times has the US violated international treaties? C'mon, take a guess.

Has Isreal declared its nuclear capacity that the whole world knows that it has?

This has ZERO to do with the protection of the US and everything to do with Washington, DC being Israeli-occupied territory .. and the world knows that as well.

Wow, imagine that... you ignored the questions presented to you. How shocking.

That said, did they or did they not sign the non-proliferation treaty?

The answer is... yes... they did

Did the leadership of Iran threaten to wipe another country off of the map?

The answer is... yes... they did

Yet you seem to believe such a country should be allowed to possess Nukes. You pretend that it is just the US that is worried/upset by this. You ignore everything relevant just so you can rant about Israel's grasp in DC. How typical of you.
 
It's the US doing all the tough talking .. and obviously you aren't aware of how much disagreement there is thoughout the world on Iran .. nor do you seem aware that unless Russia, China, and the SCO agree with the US position .. and they never will .. sanctions will not work.

There is disagreement on US bluster from within Germany, France, and even England.

How about giving up the pretense and just argue from a position of "we get to tell the world what to do."

That would make more sense .. in a non-sensical kinda' way.

As usual, you are sorely misinformed...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/intern...n_for_new_nuke_plant_bbz7w09K6t5i9eydukqegO/1

During Medvedev's talks with Obama, he opened the door to backing potential new sanctions against Iran, speaking just days after Obama's decision to scale back a U.S. missile shield in Eastern Europe that Russia strongly opposed. He followed with stronger statements Thursday, saying Russia would support international sanctions if other efforts failed. He said the U.S. and Russia must push Iran to make its nuclear program open and transparent.

On Friday in Pittsburgh, the Russian leader said the facility is "a source of serious concerns." He called on Tehran to act quickly to win the trust of the international community and "demonstrate readiness for full-scale cooperation," according to a statement quoted by the Russian news agency ITAR-Tass.

Beijing urged Iran to cooperate, but a senior Chinese official batted down the idea of punishing Tehran. "I think that all the issues can only be solved through dialogue and negotiation," Vice Foreign Minister He Yafei said.

Said Obama: "Iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow."

Sarkozy and Brown struck an even more aggressive tone. "The international community has no choice today but to draw a line in the sand," Brown said.

"However, Iran is under three sets of U.N. Security Council sanctions for refusing to freeze enrichment at what had been its single publicly known enrichment plant, which is being monitored by the IAEA."
 
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