SmarterthanYou
rebel
nobody is saying its not in bad taste, however, we have a choice to make then with regards to allowing people to freely express themselves or do we now limit rights based on societal opinions?
nobody is saying its not in bad taste, however, we have a choice to make then with regards to allowing people to freely express themselves or do we now limit rights based on societal opinions?
Burning a book is expressing an opinion of intolerance and shows disdain for freedom of expression and inquiry. As long as they own the books they have every right to do it, but it is certainly unamerican.
On the other hand... Gainesville is not far away... maybe I should load up on some Qurans.
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The Almighty
I wish I could say they weren't, but they are. Their time would be better spent burning the weepers college to the ground...
This type of intolerance is exactly what the radicals within the Muslim world do.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
the last that I remember, people still have the right to be ignoramus' as well. that does not make it 'un-american'.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Burning a book is expressing an opinion of intolerance and shows disdain for freedom of expression and inquiry. As long as they own the books they have every right to do it, but it is certainly unamerican.
On the other hand... Gainesville is not far away... maybe I should load up on some Qurans.
It's expressing a judgement on theocratic and murderous islam.
They're not forcible burning other people's quran's. They're controlling their own property.
We will lose our tolerant society if we do not judge intolerance harshy.
Our freedoms are not just to be used against us, but you seem to think so, you internationalist fascist, sold-out, traitorous p.o.s.
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
They already have that, it's covered under Burn a US Flag or Effigy Day... it comes between Stone Women and Gays Day and Behead Christians and Jews Day!
Socrtease
Verified User
The Church has every right under the first amendment to burn Korans, millions if they want. But when I hear about book burnings, this is what I see:
Notice, there are many people in this picture with swastika's on their arms and at least one flag. This is what Nazis do, this is what intolerant people do.
Notice, there are many people in this picture with swastika's on their arms and at least one flag. This is what Nazis do, this is what intolerant people do.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
The Church has every right under the first amendment to burn Korans, millions if they want. But when I hear about book burnings, this is what I see:
Notice, there are many people in this picture with swastika's on their arms and at least one flag. This is what Nazis do, this is what intolerant people do.
They're not trying to take your qurans and burn them, or anyone else's books and burn them.
That's what nazis really did. So your metaphor is bullshit, in reality.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
That's about the supidest thing I ever heard. That's reverse decrimination and circular logic. How long have you been an alcholic dude. What you're saying is that my voicing opposition to some lunatic commiting a stupid and Un-Amierican act is an infringement on their rights? How so? Please explain that one to me.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Opposing idiots that want to burn the books that express those opinions.
So let see if I get this, burning a Koran is bad, burning an American flag is good. Did I miss anything?
They should do what I do with them, wipe my ass.
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SmarterthanYou
rebel
I'll restate exactly what i said in an earlier post about this.
you are certainly allowed, and have the very right to, an opinion of how stupid an idea this may or may not be, however, to call the exercise of a right 'un american' is the height of hypocrisy and contradiction.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
would it be any different than burning copies of the unabomber manifesto? or of the writings of koresh? or how about the necronomicon?
burning books might be blasphemous, in your opinion, but as long as it's not the government banning and burning said books, it is indeed a constitutional right.
again, 'I don't have to like what you're saying, but i'll support your right to say it' does still have meaning.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
No one is even remotely fucking suggesting that their rights be limited. What you seem to be sublimating is that by burning books these nuts are infringing upon the rights of others who may wish to read the ideas within the books they are burning and though that may be a protected form of free speech it's still a small minded, reprehensible and Un-American act that violates the very spirit of the first ammendment.
"We don't like this other relgions holy book so we're going to burn it to make sure no one else reads it."
SmarterthanYou
rebel
Mott, if I go out and buy a copy of GW's memoirs, then burn it, am I committing an unamerican act? fuck no, i'm not. The right to freedom of expression is absolute, despite the fact that people might want to make it otherwise. Also, I seriously doubt that this church went out and bought every single copy of the quran ever printed so they could wipe its existence from the face of the earth. Their expression of burning a single book is not going to violate the rights of anyone wanting to read the quran. The right to freedom of expression in ANY form is not unamerican.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
They're burning they're own copies. They're not confiscating other people's.
Don't be a douche.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Yes, if your trying to prevent others from seeing that information then you have infringed upon their free speech rights. It may not be an illegal act but such an act of destroying information so others won't read it is quintessentially unAmerican and it certainly violates the spirit of Free Speech.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
stop missing the forest for the trees. Like I said, if that church happened to gather every single copy of the quran trying to eradicate it's existence, then yes THAT would be unamerican. by burning a single copy out of millions, not so much. now stop reliving your teenage girl drama days.
Non-sequitur. They have a right to do something. That does not mean it can not contradict the best ideals of our nation.
Again, they have every right to be intolerant pricks. We do have to tolerate the intolerant, e.g., nAHZi.
Burning a book represents a desire to repress the thoughts and speech of others. That is unamerican, in my view. That is, it is an act contradictory to the ideals upon which our nation was founded.