"Intergenerational Injustice"

Kacper said:
Do you understand that new construction of high rises in San Fransisco would only be affordable to the wealthy and not the low and middle income people that would still see no imaginary sense of "justice" even with the token rent control requirements for a percentage of units?
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It's about total supply. Those moving into the new high rises will leave the older lower quality homes/buildings and those will now be available to the middle/lower class.
 
cawacko said:
It's about total supply. Those moving into the new high rises will leave the older lower quality homes/buildings and those will now be available to the middle/lower class.
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No they won't. SF doesn't even have enough supply for the demand for high-end housing so existing high end housing will remain high end housing if the owner decides he wants a penthouse. There is too large an influx of well-paid tech geeks into the city who are always going to be able to pay more than the guy who delivers the mail.
 
Kacper said:
No they won't. SF doesn't even have enough supply for the demand for high-end housing so existing high end housing will remain high end housing if the owner decides he wants a penthouse. There is too large an influx of well-paid tech geeks into the city who are always going to be able to pay more than the guy who delivers the mail.
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From a big picture perspective we're talking about more than just SF. LA, Portland, Seattle, NY, D.C. all face these problems. Land costs, regulations etc. prevent you from building anything other than high end condos/apartments. The cities can work to change their zoning and regulations if they want to and in turn bring down costs. Otherwise this is the supply you must build.
 
cawacko said:
From a big picture perspective we're talking about more than just SF. LA, Portland, Seattle, NY, D.C. all face these problems. Land costs, regulations etc. prevent you from building anything other than high end condos/apartments. The cities can work to change their zoning and regulations if they want to and in turn bring down costs. Otherwise this is the supply you must build.
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

So that's what's gonna bring housing prices down?

Dude......how the fuck are you in real estate?
 
Superfreak said:
I think what should happen is all the low and middle income workers should simply stop working in the over priced areas they can't afford to live in. See what happens when the silicon valley elitists can't get a cup of coffee because no one will work the coffee shop anymore.
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That would be a very interesting experiment if even possible. But then, the answer would come in the form of those companies and the politicians finding a way to get cheap transportation out to those areas to accomplish the same.

Chicago is a great example; they have a system that can get you from over 30 miles away into the city in far less time than it would take to drive there and a hell of a lot cheaper.

Toronto; my girlfriend travels the thirty or so miles from Barrie by Train in order to work in the city center.

I guess Californians are so far ahead of everyone else, we can't figure it out yet. :rofl2:
 
Superfreak said:
um... yeah, they can. The homeowners are the ones that elect the politicians for that area. If you vote in people that will create the zoning laws that essentially protect your area from any further development in the future, it would then be next to impossible for someone to change later. Because it would require new people moving into the area to vote new people into office, which is impossible because you aren't allowing new people in.
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Okay, you need zoning laws correct? Using San Fran as the example, where in the hell are they going to build anyway?
 
IQ of 64 said:
LOL There's a housing crisis across the country mostly because of shady, corrupt, thieving, lying racist businessmen like dump. They created a corrupt real estate industry for the wealthy and have been stealing from the American people ever since.

But your dumb ass wants to try to blame liberal zoning laws.

GTFOH with that dumb shit.
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:lolup: Race hustler triggered alert!! :rofl2:

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cawacko said:
From a big picture perspective we're talking about more than just SF. LA, Portland, Seattle, NY, D.C. all face these problems. Land costs, regulations etc. prevent you from building anything other than high end condos/apartments. The cities can work to change their zoning and regulations if they want to and in turn bring down costs. Otherwise this is the supply you must build.
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So why won't they change the zoning and regulation in Orange County, Del Mar, La Jolla where rich white republicans run those cities?

Shouldn't they make housing affordable for Blacks to live near them? Or do you only talk about SF?
 
IQ of 64 said:
I own properties in CA. No liberal zoning laws kept me from purchasing. However, I had to pay up the ass because of the corrupt RE system dump and his cohorts created.
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Okay, I shall play with your race hustling bullshit; what corrupt RE system did Trump set up to cause you to pay more? :rofl2:
 
TTQ64 said:
Racist wealthy white liberals are causing a housing crises in CA........even thought a lot coastal cities are run by CA republicans.

A lot of wealthy white racist republicans in this state. They ran the state almost for a decade.

Labels and ignorance will make one think CA doesn't have republicans.
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:lolup: Race hustler pegging the irony meter here. :rofl2:

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IQ of 64 said:
So why won't they change the zoning and regulation in Orange County, Del Mar, La Jolla where rich white republicans run those cities?

Shouldn't they make housing affordable for Blacks to live near them? Or do you only talk about SF?
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I am curious, why do you think that blacks can't afford anything but low cost housing? I am betting that there are more whites and hispanics who are poor than blacks in California and those areas.

This moronic notion that it is about keeping blacks out lacks any factual connotation. If anything, more poor whites and hispanics are kept out than blacks.
 
Kacper said:
Do you understand that new construction of high rises in San Fransisco would only be affordable to the wealthy and not the low and middle income people that would still see no imaginary sense of "justice" even with the token rent control requirements for a percentage of units?
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That may be true. They may indeed go to the wealthy. But if you increase housing supply, you are going to put downward pressure on home prices and rental rates. Assuming population increase does not occur at the same time to offset the increase in supply.
 
Truth Detector said:
That would be a very interesting experiment if even possible. But then, the answer would come in the form of those companies and the politicians finding a way to get cheap transportation out to those areas to accomplish the same.

Chicago is a great example; they have a system that can get you from over 30 miles away into the city in far less time than it would take to drive there and a hell of a lot cheaper.

Toronto; my girlfriend travels the thirty or so miles from Barrie by Train in order to work in the city center.

I guess Californians are so far ahead of everyone else, we can't figure it out yet. :rofl2:
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True. But sooner or later people will stop spending that amount of time to travel to and from work each day.
 
Superfreak said:
There is new construction already going on there. The question is, what restrictions are put on the buildings? How high are they limited to?
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This. A key issue is density. In an urban area you build higher. And you build near public transportation.
 
Superfreak said:
There is new construction already going on there. The question is, what restrictions are put on the buildings? How high are they limited to?
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So they needed to tear something down to build them? What was being torn down and where? I guess I am not too clued in on the topic.
 
Truth Detector said:
So they needed to tear something down to build them? What was being torn down and where? I guess I am not too clued in on the topic.
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In some cases yes. Old one story commercial buildings, an auto shop for example, are being torn down and replaced by multi-family/condo buildings.
 
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