Insurance for everyone?

anatta said:
yes. without the mandates coverages of Obamacare,and with Health Savings Account.
I'd prefer SP -but if it's affordable catastrophic -that's what all of us really need at minimum
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Yeah .. I think you're probably right about the health savings accounts. We'll see.
:D
 
Jarod said:
How will that result in insurance for those with PEC?
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is that pre-conditions? You write a law mandating no exclusions -but you can charge higher rates.

There is more to this also: negotiating drug prices, and block grants of Medicade
( which means down here in Florida it will be expanded - because Medicade won't carry the mandated coverage of Obamacare)

It's not perfect; as I said SP is really the only way to go -but it's an improvement over Obamacare,
in that Obamacare was becoming a high risk pool in itself .It was becoming to costly for many

EDIT: that was block grants of "Medicade" -sorry
 
Bigdog said:
Yeah .. I think you're probably right about the health savings accounts. We'll see.
:D
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How is a Health Savings Account going to provide Insurance for someone without enough money to buy food or with PEC's?
 
Jarod said:
How is a Health Savings Account going to provide Insurance for someone without enough money to buy food or with PEC's?
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then they go on expanded Medicade.. The reason Scott wouldn't expand it was it was going to become too costly
Block grants endure state flexability...less mandates coverages/cheaper ( like me having to have maternity..etc.)
 
anatta said:
then they go on expanded Medicade.. The reason Scott wouldn't expand it was it was going to become too costly
Block grants endure state flexability...less mandates coverages/cheaper ( like me having to have maternity..etc.)
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You're still thinking in terms of the state running this thing.
 
anatta said:
is that pre-conditions? You write a law mandating no exclusions -but you can charge higher rates.

There is more to this also: negotiating drug prices, and block grants of Medicade
( which means down here in Florida it will be expanded - because Medicade won't carry the mandated coverage of Obamacare)

It's not perfect; as I said SP is really the only way to go -but it's an improvement over Obamacare,
in that Obamacare was becoming a high risk pool in itself .It was becoming to costly for many

EDIT: that was block grants of "Medicade" -sorry
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So the guy who is in a terrible car accident and loses his job working at the mill, and thus his insurance... will now have to pay for insurance, at a higher rate, because of the pre-existing conditions from his car accident? How is that "insurance for all"?
 
Jarod said:
So the guy who is in a terrible car accident and loses his job working at the mill, and thus his insurance... will now have to pay for insurance, at a higher rate, because of the pre-existing conditions from his car accident? How is that "insurance for all"?
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no workmans comp? no disability insurance?... It's part of the deal though .
If you are going to still have insurance companies they exist to MAKE A PROFIT OFF ILLNESS-
then part of that is being able to adjust rates for individuals based on projected needs/costs
 
anatta said:
no workmans comp? no disability insurance? It's part of the deal though .
If you are going to still have insurance companies they exist to MAKE A PROFIT OFF ILLNESS-and part of that is being able toadjut rates for individuals based on projected needs
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And you just nailed it. There is a need for insurance but it shouldn't be our primary way of dealing with things.
 
anatta said:
no workmans comp? no disability insurance?... It's part of the deal though .
If you are going to still have insurance companies they exist to MAKE A PROFIT OFF ILLNESS-
then part of that is being able to adjust rates for individuals based on projected needs/costs
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I understand, that is why I am asking how Trump has a plan that produces "insurance for everyone"? Single payer?
 
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