cawacko
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I did not say the government should regulate it. Why are you always so desperate to put words in my mouth?
Who else would do it?
I did not say the government should regulate it. Why are you always so desperate to put words in my mouth?
Who else would do it?
There is no such thing as a 'CEO pay loophole'. Buzzword fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy.
Nope. They didn't dodge a single cent.
No such thing.
Fascism. You don't get to dictate how corporations spend their money.
So?
So?
So?
No such thing.
The executive pays it instead, ya dumb lizard.
No, it doesn't ya dumb lizard.
Good.
Good.
Lie.
They aren't.
What loopholes?
WRONG. Democrat election fraud makes voters feel the system is rigged against them!
They do.
They do.
There is no difference. Everyone uses the same rules.
Argument from randU fallacy.
The federal government is not authorized to educate kids.
Not paid for with income taxes.
Government does not do that.
No such thing.
No. Communism caused the 2008 financial crash. In other words...the Fed.
Not the cause of the 2008 crash.
They don't.
You haven't mentioned one yet.
So?
And the more the executive pays in his taxes.
It doesn't.
No such thing, ya dumb lizard.
Irrelevance fallacy.
No loophole. Stock is not income nor an expense for a corporation.
Yeah. That really worked with Disney and other companies biting the dust because they decided to go Woke.
So?
Not the cause of the 2008 crash.
Not a loophole. Try again.
Argument from randU fallacy. Buzzword fallacy. False authority fallacy.

They could self regulate. Consumers could get active about it. The market might correct them some day. Lots o options.
Self regulate? In a market economy where there is a battle for talent companies are going to tell top talent they should accept less? Kind of goes against human nature huh?
To bring it to your field, why are there rich attorneys? As long as a person is able to put a roof over their head and food on the table why do they need to earn more than that? Attorneys don't have the charge the amounts they do.
What are consumers going to do? People b*tch about Amazon and Jeff Bezos' wealth yet still shop from them on a regular basis.
We celebrate that the stock market goes up yet don't like that firms earn high profits and don't like that senior management, whose compensation is tied to the stock performance, make a lot when the stock goes up.
It's an easy thing to complain about and can make for great virtue signaling but few want to change their behavior to deal with it.
I self regulate. I’m not as wealthy as I could be. I give after the fact discounts on my contractural rate most of the time. Depends on many factors.
There's lots of books out there about how to make more money, how to approach your boss for a raise etc. Maybe you can write a book/do a lecture tour on self regulating and making less than you could and living below your means and doing less in general (travel and so forth) to help save the environment etc.
I just do what I believe is fair
That's great. But your thread was about the info the liberal EPI posted on CEO pay. Just wishing companies would offer less and executive leaders would accept less goes against human nature and isn't a viable strategy. Your suggestion was what we already do, align executive compensation with shareholder interest - but it seems you don't like the results.
That is a good question!
Do you pay your fair share of taxes? I assume you do!
But since you pay your fair share of taxes, don't you think everyone else should be paying theirs?
Why do you pay your taxes, but yet some billionaire somewhere has a special tax break set up (just for him) in the TAX CODE by some Senator that wrote the tax break into law, by adding it onto a popular Bill at the last minute, before it can be read while being approved by Congress. A tax break requested by a lobbyist working for some Billionaire that heavily contributed to that Congressman's campaign, that tacked it onto the bill!
That is how the Tax code book of tax breaks has 75,000 pages now. Do not tell me you do not know this has been going on for almost a century now!
Next!
I did not suggest “just wishing” and I disagree it goes against human nature, humans can be generous and often share and often chose to do with less for the common good. You are just buying into what the greedy ones are selling, “heck my greed is just human nature, so leave me alone.”
Nobody pays their “fair share” of taxes. To paraphrase that other socialist fossil Bernie sanders, I pay what the government tells me to pay, so I can keep my stuff and not go to jail.
Stop thinking in terms of a “fair share”. It’s meaningless if you can’t put a quantitative value on it, and no one here (or even in congress) has ever tried to do it. No one is really qualified to do it anyway. Do you take any deductions when you file? That includes the standard deduction. If you do, how dare you take a tax break like that!! You earned that money! You should pay taxes on it!! Did you take the EITC? Hell, you probably didn’t pay any taxes at all AND you might have gotten back even more in your “refund” than you paid all year! (BTW, the government thanks you for letting them use your refund as an interest free loan for a year…just kidding, they don’t give a rat’s ass about you as long as you pay up).
Why do you care? And exactly what are these “tax breaks for billionaires”? And you might want to consider the negative impact that higher taxes have on these billionaires (don’t get too excited, I have no sympathy for them, but I understand their reaction to a high tax environment, and it’s not a positive thing for anyone involved. They have a responsibility to their shareholders which includes those D.C. swamp creatures who write the tax laws). Did you know New York State has a program that exempts business startups from taxes for TEN YEARS? Why would they do that?
Of course I know what’s going on. I can’t think of another reason these Jurassic old bastards want to stay in the swamp for a half century or more, except that it’s so lucrative.
https://www.efile.com/tax-history-a...e history of income tax,to the modern day IRS.
Nah, let’s stay here for awhile and talk about how much better your life would be if the rich guys would just give more money to the government.
You must have me confused with someone else. Not sure I was in the middle of any of these arguments you presented.
But thanks for sharing!



Okay, one thing at a time. Let's see if we can jump start your other brain cell.
do you pay your "fair share of taxes", or do you pay what the government says you owe?
I agree, but this is excess… and in a time of screaming about inflation, it could be more balanced.
You must have me confused with someone else. Not sure I was in the middle of any of these arguments you presented.
But thanks for sharing!
CEO pay at America’s largest public companies is up 1,460% since 1978.
Talk about inflation.
You are not really a school teacher are you?
No one would trust you to teach their children!
I am calling you a fucking liar!