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The concept of Liberal Progressivism is antithetical and the antithesis of those principles that made this nation the greatest nation on earth. A nation that has liberated multitudes from the enslavement of tyranny and collectivism.

We are not a collective of human beings to be ruled upon by the laws of man; that a Communistic point of view and one that is shared by liberals like Obama.

We start with the concept of Natural rights.

INTRODUCTION to AMERICAN FOUNDING and CONSTITUTIONALISM

The prominence of the natural rights discourse from the Early Modern thinkers played a crucial role in guiding the creation of the founding documents of the American Republic. The rhetoric and logic of the natural rights tradition can be found in the resolutions of the first Continental Congress in their appeal to ‘the immutable laws of nature,’ and in the affirmation of the ‘unalienable rights’ of man in the Declaration of Independence. The Founders sought to secure the liberty and autonomy of the citizens of the American Republic, and the Constitution and Bill of Rights display the preoccupation with and concern for the inviolable rights belonging to man.

As the Republic grew over the next hundred years, natural rights remained a guiding, though not undisputed, principle for many of its leading thinkers. Tensions and obscurities arose as the thinkers of the fledgling Republic struggled to articulate the difference between natural rights and acquired rights and to define the categories to which they belonged. Justice James Wilson, a member of the first Continental Congress, posited that the categories could be overlapping and indicated the examples of marriage, parenthood, and the education of children as instances of the innate compatibility of natural rights and the ‘domestic economy.’ Others, however, favored the notion that rights originate in the social contract, and are therefore derived solely from the Constitution and Bill of Rights.


http://www.nlnrac.org/american
 
you conservatives are no damned better, standing behind a government authorized force of people with legal power to oppress a free people. you supported the redcoats and king george.
 
you conservatives are no damned better, standing behind a government authorized force of people with legal power to oppress a free people. you supported the redcoats and king george.

I dunno. The most conservative region (New England) was the most heavily patriot, while the most liberal region (the south), was the most heavily loyalist. Liberalism (particularly when you just look at Pennsylvania and Virginia) played a larger role in the Revolution (particularly after 1770), of course, but it was conservative New England that got the ball rolling.
 
I dunno. The most conservative region (New England) was the most heavily patriot, while the most liberal region (the south), was the most heavily loyalist. Liberalism (particularly when you just look at Pennsylvania and Virginia) played a larger role in the Revolution (particularly after 1770), of course, but it was conservative New England that got the ball rolling.

lets not confuse classic liberalism with the liberalism of today. and most conservatives nowadays, haven't changed much, depending upon who's 'leading'.
 
you conservatives are no damned better, standing behind a government authorized force of people with legal power to oppress a free people. you supported the redcoats and king george.

True monarchies are socialist. The King owns the kingdom and all his subjects.

Communism is Statelessness. Is that what you are advocating?
 
i'd say 'at least i have a brain',

Not according to the warped diatribe you constantly erupt with. Rather, it suggests someone in dire need of professional help.

but you can't even understand that crap. you're worse than any big government liberal because you actually demand the government agents be brutal.

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True monarchies are socialist. The King owns the kingdom and all his subjects.

Communism is Statelessness. Is that what you are advocating?

SmarterthanFew advocates a stateless anarchy and a nation full of drug addicts who can do anything they want on their property regardless of zoning or what neighbors might think.
 
SmarterthanFew advocates a stateless anarchy and a nation full of drug addicts who can do anything they want on their property regardless of zoning or what neighbors might think.

silly me, believing in freedom and shit. unlike you authoritarian statists who believe that the government can dictate any aspect of our lives.
 
silly me, believing in freedom and shit.

Anarchy is not about freedom you dunce. Our forefathers, far smarter than YEW, understood this much.

unlike you authoritarian statists who believe that the government can dictate any aspect of our lives.

That's an amazing falsehood uttered in leftist dumbfuck fashion. I am a Constitutionalist who advocates the limited government our forefathers believed in and denounce the activist Fascism we had under Obamunism.

I advocate eliminating Departments of Education, HUD and energy to reduce government authoritarianism and put that back where it belongs, in the states.
 
how you equate communism with statelessness

Somalia is the closest thing to a communist State, today.

"a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money,[3][4] and the state."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

And North Korea is the most Socialist country, today. Notice how much it resembles a monarchy.


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lets not confuse classic liberalism with the liberalism of today. and most conservatives nowadays, haven't changed much, depending upon who's 'leading'.

I'm always care to distinguish the liberalism of Locke, Jefferson, and Mill, from the leftism of Wilson and the New Left. The conservatives I like to read (Kirk's ISI and Buckley's National Review) identify with the teachings of Burke, so, there is a concerted effort to be unchanging (particularly when movements, such as libertarianism, objectivism, and neoconservatism, come along).
 
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