In blow to freedom, Democrats in Michigan repeal Right-to-work

[NiftyNiblick]

i think most people would.

but forcing it is just wrong.

forcing it means they are no longer accountable to workers, paradoxically.

Unions aren't a third party, Fredo, to be accountable to anybody.

Unions ARE the workers--organized.

You remind me of those who claim to respect teachers but hate the teachers unions--a flat out impossibility.

 

[Monad Portal]

Unions aren't a third party, Fredo, to be accountable to anybody.

Unions ARE the workers--organized.

You remind me of those who claim to respect teachers but hate the teachers unions--a flat out impossibility.

if you have to join though, it takes away the ability of workers to choose a different union if the current one gets co-opted by management and sells out the workers, which does happen.

this is probably exactly why you want forced unions. in the end you're a totalitarian.

 

[Monad Portal]

Nothing is forced, the workers had voted for union representation. If you dont want to be included, go elsewhere- Simple!

thats forced.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

if you have to join though, it takes away the ability of workers to choose a different union if the current one gets co-opted by management and sells out the workers, which does happen.

this is probably exactly why you want forced unions. in the end you're a totalitarian.

One, unions have elections. I myself have both won and lost them.
Two, unions may be decertified and replaced with alternate ones in extreme situations.
This topic isn't your wheelhouse, Asshat.

 

[Monad Portal]

One, unions have elections. I myself have both won and lost them.
Two, unions may be decertified and replaced with alternate ones in extreme situations.
This topic isn't your wheelhouse, Asshat.

foced membership destroys accountability.

 

[Yakuda]

One, unions have elections. I myself have both won and lost them.
Two, unions may be decertified and replaced with alternate ones in extreme situations.
This topic isn't your wheelhouse, Asshat.

Oh course you lost. Donkey fuckers always do.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

foced membership destroys accountability.

In many states, workers aren't required to join, but must be employed as" fee-payers.'
The equivalent of dues is deducted from their paychecks, but they don't have to be actual members,

They are by no means entitled to a free ride of accepting union benefits,
which is why the right-to-work concept is so absurd on its face.

if you don't want to pay dues or equivalent fees, you have the right to open up a lemonade stand or something.
Even then, you must go to city or town hall for a vendors permit. You don't live in a jungle.

 

[Monad Portal]

In many states, workers aren't required to join, but must be employed as" fee-payers.'
The equivalent of dues is deducted from their paychecks, but they don't have to be actual members,

They are by no means entitled to a free ride of accepting union benefits,
which is why the right-to-work concept is so absurd on its face.

if you don't want to pay dues or equivalent fees, you have the right to open up a lemonade stand or something.
Even then, you must go to city or town hall for a vendors permit. You don't live in a jungle.

unions get corrupted, the older member decide so screw the young ones.

no. it cannot be forced.

 

[Yakuda]

Retarded donkey fucker logic

"In many states, workers aren't required to join, but must be employed as" fee-payers.'
The equivalent of dues is deducted from their paychecks, but they don't have to be actual members,"

People arent "required" to join they just pay like every one else. People with morals call that robbery.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

unions get corrupted, the older member decide so screw the young ones.

no. it cannot be forced.

You're obviously another who think that workers should offer their butt holes for the pleasure of their bosses.
Every post you've made on this topic screams that.

You might have found life to be more enjoyable as a real man, AssHat, instead of a wimp.
I really shouldn't, because you don't deserve it, but I nonetheless feel sorry for you.

 

[Yakuda]

unions get corrupted, the older member decide so screw the young ones.

no. it cannot be forced.

Unions are criminals look at the first line of that retarded donkey fuckers post. Union workers are dupes.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Retarded donkey fucker logic

"In many states, workers aren't required to join, but must be employed as" fee-payers.'
The equivalent of dues is deducted from their paychecks, but they don't have to be actual members,"

People arent "required" to join they just pay like every one else. People with morals call that robbery.

And enjoying benefits earned by others-- while you were an obstacle-- isn't?
Logic is a step too far for you, Yak.

 

[Monad Portal]

You're obviously another who think that workers should offer their butt holes for the pleasure of their bosses.
Every post you've made on this topic screams that.

You might have found life to be more enjoyable as a real man, AssHat, instead of a wimp.
I really shouldn't, because you don't deserve it, but I nonetheless feel sorry for you.

no.

and i often fault the libertarian corporate worship, which is sickening.

 

[Monad Portal]

And enjoying benefits earned by others-- while you were an obstacle-- isn't?
Logic is a step too far for you, Yak.

Does sending jobs overseas hurt american workers?

 

[Yakuda]

And enjoying benefits earned by others-- while you were an obstacle-- isn't?
Logic is a step too far for you, Yak.

You're a fucking thief that's the only logic here. We are supposed to believe unions have nothing but the workers best interests at heart right? Lmfao.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Does sending jobs overseas hurt american workers?

it's a principle totally in line with American short-sightedness.

Stuff made abroad is cheaper...
but now you don't have an income to spend on it.

Do you want to know the truth, AssHat?

American-style democracy and capitalism both have no capability to fix themselves when they get this fucked up.

When it gets bad enough, totalitarianism and communism could end up being the only alternative for survival.

Thank the founders for not doing a better job writing our constitution.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

You're a fucking thief that's the only logic here. We are supposed to believe unions have nothing but the workers best interests at heart right? Lmfao.

LMFAO?????
You'd have nothing left. An ass available for fucking is the entirety of your composition.

 

[Yakuda]

LMFAO?????
You'd have nothing left. An ass available for fucking is the entirety of your composition.

I have all that's necessary. Unions are thieving bastards. You had no problem declaring it a few posts be know you're butt hurt? You maggots really do seem to think everyone is a stupid as you.

 

[Monad Portal]

it's a principle totally in line with American short-sightedness.

Stuff made abroad is cheaper...
but now you don't have an income to spend on it.

Do you want to know the truth, AssHat?

American-style democracy and capitalism both have no capability to fix themselves when they get this fucked up.

When it gets bad enough, totalitarianism and communism could end up being the only alternative for survival.

Thank the founders for not doing a better job writing our constitution.

if you really cared about workers you would be with trump on tariffs instead of trying to shake down workers.

you practice the insincere populism i have referred to previously.

Your whole existence is a cynical lie.

you're are a nihilistic genocider.

 

[Monad Portal]

LMFAO?????
You'd have nothing left. An ass available for fucking is the entirety of your composition.

and you're an admitted totalitarian with no credibility.