USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
They would be called a Liberal from Chicago.
(by the way, you can't lift an ID from an old tombstone)
I'm Sure This is Just a Coincidence
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(by the way, you can't lift an ID from an old tombstone)
Alias
Banned
Why do you allow disenfranchisement of millions of people who don't have a driver's license with their picture on it?
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Republican officials have launched an unprecedented, centrally coordinated campaign to suppress the elements of the Democratic vote that elected Barack Obama in 2008.
Republicans have long tried to drive Democratic voters away from the polls. "I don't want everybody to vote," the influential conservative activist Paul Weyrich told a gathering of evangelical leaders in 1980. "As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."
Since the 2010 election, thanks to a conservative advocacy group founded by Weyrich, the GOP's effort to disrupt voting rights has been more widespread and effective than ever.
In a systematic campaign orchestrated by the American Legislative Exchange Council – and funded in part by David and Charles Koch, the billionaire brothers who bankrolled the Tea Party – 38 states introduced legislation this year designed to impede voters.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830
Republicans have long tried to drive Democratic voters away from the polls. "I don't want everybody to vote," the influential conservative activist Paul Weyrich told a gathering of evangelical leaders in 1980. "As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."
Since the 2010 election, thanks to a conservative advocacy group founded by Weyrich, the GOP's effort to disrupt voting rights has been more widespread and effective than ever.
In a systematic campaign orchestrated by the American Legislative Exchange Council – and funded in part by David and Charles Koch, the billionaire brothers who bankrolled the Tea Party – 38 states introduced legislation this year designed to impede voters.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
the young, minorities, the poor, felons, the dead, people who can't remember where they live, and all others unable to obtain a photo id........core Democratic party members......
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The Almighty
That is my point as well. IF his figure of 21 million is correct it would cost less than the government just wasted on Solyndra to pay for EVERY single one of those ID's these people 'can't afford'
christiefan915
Catalyst
The Myth of Voter Fraud
Published: May 13, 2008
Missouri and at least 19 other states are considering passing laws that would force people to prove their citizenship before they can vote. These bills are not a sincere effort to prevent noncitizens from voting; that is a made-up problem. The real aim is to reduce turnout by eligible voters. Republicans seem to think that laws of this kind will help them win elections, but burdensome rules like these — and others cropping up around the country — pose a serious threat to democracy and should be stopped.
...There is no evidence that voting by noncitizens is a significant problem. Illegal immigrants do their best to remain in the shadows, to avoid attracting government attention and risking deportation. It is hard to imagine that many would walk into a polling place, in the presence of challengers and police, and try to cast a ballot.
There is, however, ample evidence that a requirement of proof of citizenship will keep many eligible voters from voting. Many people do not have birth certificates or other acceptable proof of citizenship, and for some people, that proof is not available. One Missouri voter, Lillie Lewis, said at a news conference last week that officials in Mississippi, where she was born, told her they had no record of her birth...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/opinion/13tue1.html
Published: May 13, 2008
Missouri and at least 19 other states are considering passing laws that would force people to prove their citizenship before they can vote. These bills are not a sincere effort to prevent noncitizens from voting; that is a made-up problem. The real aim is to reduce turnout by eligible voters. Republicans seem to think that laws of this kind will help them win elections, but burdensome rules like these — and others cropping up around the country — pose a serious threat to democracy and should be stopped.
...There is no evidence that voting by noncitizens is a significant problem. Illegal immigrants do their best to remain in the shadows, to avoid attracting government attention and risking deportation. It is hard to imagine that many would walk into a polling place, in the presence of challengers and police, and try to cast a ballot.
There is, however, ample evidence that a requirement of proof of citizenship will keep many eligible voters from voting. Many people do not have birth certificates or other acceptable proof of citizenship, and for some people, that proof is not available. One Missouri voter, Lillie Lewis, said at a news conference last week that officials in Mississippi, where she was born, told her they had no record of her birth...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/opinion/13tue1.html
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The Almighty
When you get a job.... you need an ID
When you get a loan... you need an ID
When you cash a check... you need an ID
If state law states you need a photo ID at the registration, then the LAW SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE.
Requiring a photo ID is not cumbersome, it is not some grave financial burden you are placing on anyone, it allows for an easy verification of identity.
Also... this isn't about YOU... this is about EVERYONE. Many people DO get carded when they buy alcohol. Most people in the nation drive. Most people use debit or credit cards.
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The Almighty
So it is a problem, just not what the author of the study calls 'significant'. When elections can swing on a thousand votes or less... I would say .... EVERY VOTE counts.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Voting is a constitutional right, the others are not.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Yep, that's what we said back in 2000 when SCOTUS handed the election to bush.
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Guns Guns Guns
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Ever since Republicans captured the majority in a number of state legislatures last November, they have systematically attempted to make it more difficult to vote by onerous voter ID requirements, by narrowing registration periods; and by residency requirements that may disenfranchise university students.
This legislative assault is moving in a diametrically opposed direction to 200 years of American history, when the arrow of progress pointed toward more political participation by more citizens.
http://www.truth-out.org/goodbye-all-reflections-gop-operative-who-left-cult/1314907779
This legislative assault is moving in a diametrically opposed direction to 200 years of American history, when the arrow of progress pointed toward more political participation by more citizens.
http://www.truth-out.org/goodbye-all-reflections-gop-operative-who-left-cult/1314907779
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Once again, thanks for agreeing with me and showing that voter fraud exists.
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Don't you mean; back in 2000, when SCOTUS refused to let the Liberals steal the Florida vote.
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The Almighty
yeah, they 'handed it to him'.... they upheld the Constitution. No matter how many times the left bitches about SCOTUS in 2000.... they did the right thing. The votes in FL gave Bush the victory in FL. period.
Alias
Banned
You seem to have the bad habit of repeating myths from the MSM. SCOTUS stopped an illegal corrupt recount by the Gore team of not counting absentee ballots from the military and only counting precincts in Dade County favorable to Gore. Even a recount conucted by the NY Times gave it to Bush. If you disagree with that then make your point.
Here is a homework assignment for you. Find out why Gore lost his home state of Tennesee, which if he had won would have made him President without needing Florida. You're not very bright and you're in over your head here.
christiefan915
Catalyst
EVERY VOTE didn't count then, did it.
"On December 12, the Supreme Court ruled in a 7–2 vote that the Florida Supreme Court's ruling requiring a statewide recount of ballots was unconstitutional, and in a 5–4 vote that the Florida recounts could not be completed before a December 12 "safe harbor" deadline, and should therefore cease and the previously certified total should hold."
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Guns Guns Guns
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It's not just voter ID requirements.
All told, a dozen states have approved new obstacles to voting.
Kansas and Alabama now require would-be voters to provide proof of citizenship before registering.
Florida and Texas made it harder for groups like the League of Women Voters to register new voters.
Maine repealed Election Day voter registration, which had been on the books since 1973.
Five states – Florida, Georgia, Ohio, Tennessee and West Virginia – cut short their early voting periods.
Florida and Iowa barred all ex-felons from the polls, disenfranchising thousands of previously eligible voters.
And six states controlled by Republican governors and legislatures – Alabama, Kansas, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Wisconsin – will require voters to produce a government-issued ID before casting ballots.
More than 10 percent of U.S. citizens lack such identification, and the numbers are even higher among constituencies that traditionally lean Democratic – including 18 percent of young voters and 25 percent of African-Americans.
Taken together, such measures could significantly dampen the Democratic turnout next year – perhaps enough to shift the outcome in favor of the GOP.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830
All told, a dozen states have approved new obstacles to voting.
Kansas and Alabama now require would-be voters to provide proof of citizenship before registering.
Florida and Texas made it harder for groups like the League of Women Voters to register new voters.
Maine repealed Election Day voter registration, which had been on the books since 1973.
Five states – Florida, Georgia, Ohio, Tennessee and West Virginia – cut short their early voting periods.
Florida and Iowa barred all ex-felons from the polls, disenfranchising thousands of previously eligible voters.
And six states controlled by Republican governors and legislatures – Alabama, Kansas, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Wisconsin – will require voters to produce a government-issued ID before casting ballots.
More than 10 percent of U.S. citizens lack such identification, and the numbers are even higher among constituencies that traditionally lean Democratic – including 18 percent of young voters and 25 percent of African-Americans.
Taken together, such measures could significantly dampen the Democratic turnout next year – perhaps enough to shift the outcome in favor of the GOP.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
And................................................what??
Or did you miss the "unconstitutional" part?
Alias
Banned
The NY Times did a recount and found Bush won. Gore lost his home state of Tennesee which would have made him President without needing Florida. Deal with it.