Text Drivers are Killers
Joe Biden - "Time to put Trump in the bullseye."
Liberals, esp liberal women, cannot think.
Illogical Hillary demands all schools be above average!!!!
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USFREEDOM911
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If ALL SCHOOLS are above average, then ABOVE AVERAGE becomes the new average that all schools must then be above and then RINSE AND REPEAT.
cawacko
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In theory is that a bad thing if it continually forces schools to get better?
Well, if you close over half of the schools that are currently average or below, then you set a new average with the schools that are left, which you would then close over half of because they are performing at average or below...
Pretty soon there'd be no schools if you follow this path.
cawacko
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I guess I was figuring new schools would open in the place of the one's being closed. Maybe I'm just lost in the excitement of a national Democratic politician openly saying they'd be willing to close poor performing schools.
USFREEDOM911
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Are you unable to realize that by using her comment, no school will ever be able to reach "nirvana"; because the guide lines for above average, just keep increasing.
They could be 100% succeeding in every expectation; but since 100% is now the AVERAGE, they've got to go for 110%, then 120%, 130%, 140%, etc.
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Eh, let's say you shut down all schools that are below average. By definition, you have shut down half the schools in the country.
But what do you have after that? Half of the schools in the country are still below average. So shut them down too, right?
Continue this process to infinity, and you have 0 schools open.
USFREEDOM911
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BAZINGA
Get excited when they allow them to compete. Taking an average of crappy public schools and closing some won't improve education if you just fill the gap with newly minted crappy public schools with the same teachers and philosophy.
cawacko
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Maybe I was assuming too much in her statement but I'd figured closing public schools would be reopened as charter schools (which is what often happens now) thus a higher quality of educational opportunity for those kids.
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What are you going to do after you close down a school? Send the children to a school in the next district, which probably isn't equipped to deal with suddenly doubling it's student size? Or bulldoze the old building and build a new one on top of that?
Then who are you going to hire to staff this school? Well, there are a bunch of trained officials, now out of the job since you closed down the old school, in the same district. Or you can just have no staff, and a massive bump in unemployment in that district.
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Charter schools should be banned.
On this issue I have to agree with Hillary. I still won't vote for her. But you can bet I'll vote for every blue dog democrat running for state office if they can assure me they won't expand abortion rights. Our state republicans like to propose stuff like this. This is not logical nor is it feasible.
http://okcfox.com/news/local/okla-lawmaker-proposes-eliminating-all-school-districts
http://okcfox.com/news/local/okla-lawmaker-proposes-eliminating-all-school-districts
As a public school teacher I disagree.
cawacko
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LOL. Charter schools across America are rejoicing as they receive the Watermark stamp of approval.
Nonsense. They should directly compete with private schools for funding. The money follows the child and schools compete for the money. The competition would begin a process of closing under performing schools because parents would cease sending kids to the school that fails so miserably. Currently they are forced to send their kids to the government monopoly, it's a recipe for fail.
cawacko
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LR, excuse my ignorance on this but why would this not work? (not suggesting it should but curious to hear your feedback)
Airstrip One
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As with what Damo pointed out about Hillary's comments, this has already been a problem under the current NCLB standards. Schools are required to meet AYP (adequate yearly progress), and for higher performing schools, this becomes a punitive nightmare.