Ignorance and the Bible

  • Arianism: Argued that the Son of God was not co-eternal with the Father and was subordinate to Him.

  • Modalism (or Sabellianism): Proposed that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were different aspects of one God, rather than distinct persons.

  • Adoptionism: The belief that Jesus was an ordinary man who was "adopted" as the Son of God at his baptism or at some other point in his life.
So it was voted that jc was god

It certainly required a creed stated to this very day in churches across the land to ensure that the right version was selected (ie NOT Arias' version!)

But we can rest assured that if it took two or more centuries of work by hard-workin' men to figure out the ULTIMATE TRUTH about the nature of Jesus cum God, then we can feel comfortable that they got it right.
 
  • Arianism: Argued that the Son of God was not co-eternal with the Father and was subordinate to Him.

  • Modalism (or Sabellianism): Proposed that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were different aspects of one God, rather than distinct persons.

  • Adoptionism: The belief that Jesus was an ordinary man who was "adopted" as the Son of God at his baptism or at some other point in his life.
So it was voted that jc was god
Pretty standard events in the evolution of a religion.

It took over one thousand years for Judaism to evolve into what we recognize as Rabbinic Judaism. It took Buddhism centuries to evolve into one school of thought that the Buddha was a transcendental being, and another school that believed he was a historical human teacher.
 
Pretty standard events in the evolution of a religion.

It took over one thousand years for Judaism to evolve into what we recognize as Rabbinic Judaism. It took Buddhism centuries to evolve into one school of thought that the Buddha was a transcendental being, and another school that believed he was a historical human teacher.
Yet Torah was always there , unchanged generation to generation.

Rabbinic Judaism came about after the destruction of the Temple and out exile , they added nothing to Torah, but discussed Jewish law in the Talmud, was it known as the oral law 200 CE to 500 CE.

The Torah is the sacred, divinely revealed "Written Torah" consisting of the first five books of the Hebrew Bible, while the Talmud is the "Oral Torah," a vast compilation of rabbinic commentaries, laws, debates, and stories that expound on and explain the Written Torah. The Torah provides the foundational laws and teachings of Judaism, and the Talmud serves as the essential guide for interpreting and applying these laws in daily life.

The two Talmud compilations, the Yerushalmi (Jerusalem Talmud) and the Babylonian Talmud, were written between the 3rd and 5th centuries CE. The Mishnah, the first part of the Talmud, was finalized around 200 CE, while the Gemara (commentary and discussions on the Mishnah) was finalized later. The Jerusalem Talmud was completed around 400 CE, and the Babylonian Talmud, which is more widely studied, was finalized around 500 CE.


A Sefer Torah is the most holy object in Judaism, a handwritten scroll containing the Five Books of Moses (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy) written by a trained scribe in Hebrew on parchment. It is the center of Jewish religious life, kept in a synagogue's ark and read publicly during prayer services every week, especially on Shabbat. The meticulous process of writing a Sefer Torah, the rituals surrounding it, and the celebrations of its completion and arrival in a new community all underscore its deep spiritual significance.
 
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yes. the oral Torah.

the Islam equivalent in Islam is the THe hadiths.

in Christianity its the writing of the "church fathers".

all these are dumber and worse than just the original foundational texts.
 
Pretty standard events in the evolution of a religion.

It took over one thousand years for Judaism to evolve into what we recognize as Rabbinic Judaism. It took Buddhism centuries to evolve into one school of thought that the Buddha was a transcendental being, and another school that believed he was a historical human teacher.
Takes a long time to make up a good cosmology.
 
what if Mohammed was a Catholic sent into the holy land to Kill real Christians?
Ex-Jesuit Alberto Rivera relates the following story that he learned from Cardinal Bea.

‘Teachers were sent to young Muhammad and he had intensive training. Muhammad studied the works of St. Augustine which prepared him for his “great calling.” The Vatican had Catholic Arabs across North Africa spread the story of a great one who was about to rise up among the people and be the chosen one of their God.
A rich Catholic widow was sent to Mohammed to help guide him.

‘A wealthy Arabian lady who was a faithful follower of the pope played a tremendous part in this drama. She was a widow named Khadijah. She gave her wealth to the church and retired to a convent, but was given an assignment. She was to find a brilliant young man who could be used by the Vatican to create a new religion and become the messiah for the children of Ishmael.
Mohammed married Khadija, when he was 25 and she was 40. They had two sons and four daughters, one of them named Fatima.

Khadijah had a cousin named Waraquah,, who was also a very faithful Roman Catholic and the Vatican placed him in a critical role as Muhammad’s adviser. He had tremendous influence on Muhammad.
They influenced his beliefs to see Jews and true Christians as the enemy, and Roman Catholics as brothers under their shared father Abraham.

‘While Muhammad was being prepared, he was told that his enemies were the Jews and that the only true Christians were Roman Catholic. He was taught that others calling themselves Christians were actually wicked impostors and should be destroyed. Many Muslims believe this.
The Augustinians exalted Mohammed to unite Arabs, and they created the Koran to give them a mission.

David Nikao Wilcoxson
 
Pretty standard events in the evolution of a religion.

It took over one thousand years for Judaism to evolve into what we recognize as Rabbinic Judaism. It took Buddhism centuries to evolve into one school of thought that the Buddha was a transcendental being, and another school that believed he was a historical human teacher.
it's devolution oftentimes.

its often the case that the pure and better message of the original text is ruined by the stupidity and evil of power seeking evil men.
 
based

now you're an anti-semite too.

welcome to the club.

More rubbish. History isn't 'antisemitic', and in fact it was the Babylonians who heavily discriminated against the majority of Jews with their 2nd Temple scam and changing the accepted genealogy practice from the male to the female line in order to keep 'those other Jews' from holding religious and political offices after the Persians set them up with their own state.
 
More rubbish. History isn't 'antisemitic', and in fact it was the Babylonians who heavily discriminated against the majority of Jews with their 2nd Temple scam and changing the accepted genealogy practice from the male to the female line in order to keep 'those other Jews' from holding religious and political offices after the Persians set them up with their own state.
nevertheless, you're now in the club.

being against genocide shouldnt be anti-semitic either, yet it is considered so.
 
Ex-Jesuit Alberto Rivera relates the following story that he learned from Cardinal Bea.


A rich Catholic widow was sent to Mohammed to help guide him.


Mohammed married Khadija, when he was 25 and she was 40. They had two sons and four daughters, one of them named Fatima.


They influenced his beliefs to see Jews and true Christians as the enemy, and Roman Catholics as brothers under their shared father Abraham.


The Augustinians exalted Mohammed to unite Arabs, and they created the Koran to give them a mission.

David Nikao Wilcoxson

lol rubbish. 'Catholicism' didn't exist in the 7th Century. Just because they claim to be the 'first church' doesn't mean they actually were, it's just their 'tradition', a late fabrication. That is why the more honest scholars among them always precede that claim with 'by tradtion'.
 
lol rubbish. 'Catholicism' didn't exist in the 7th Century. Just because they claim to be the 'first church' doesn't mean they actually were, it's just their 'tradition', a late fabrication. That is why the more honest scholars among them always precede that claim with 'by tradtion'.

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Christianity was not officially made the state religion of Rome until 380 AD under Emperor Theodosius I. However, Constantine the Great legalized Christianity in 313 AD with the Edict of Milan, which allowed Christians to worship freely.
 
being against genocide shouldnt be anti-semitic either, yet it is considered so.

There is no 'genocide'; quit lying. Even the fake HAmas claims are '65,000', out of 2-3 million. Are you claiming the Israels are awful shots and can't hit anything now? The real number is closer to 20,000, the vast majority being Hamas gangsters. Quit being a dumbass parrot.
 
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Christianity was not officially made the state religion of Rome until 380 AD under Emperor Theodosius I. However, Constantine the Great legalized Christianity in 313 AD with the Edict of Milan, which allowed Christians to worship freely.

lol Constantine's 'church' wasn't founded in Rome, it was founded in Constantinople, and based on the eastern Orthodox sects out of Antioch. They were the sane church until the Great Schism in the 11th Century. Because Christianity was a universalist sect, as was 'Judaism' before the Babylonian Conquest, all Christian churches were 'catholic', little c. That is what the word catholic means, universal. I realize this only confuses the idiots and the uneducated, but tough, that is just the way it is. It's state function was handling the state's social services, which they handled pretty well. I wouldn't be a 'state' religion without being a part of the bureaucracy.
 
lol Constantine's 'church' wasn't founded in Rome, it was founded in Constantinople, and based on the eastern Orthodox sects out of Antioch. They were the sane church until the Great Schism in the 11th Century. Because Christianity was a universalist sect, as was 'Judaism' before the Babylonian Conquest, all Christian churches were 'catholic', little c. That is what the word catholic means, universal. I realize this only confuses the idiots and the uneducated, but tough, that is just the way it is. It's state function was handling the state's social services, which they handled pretty well. I wouldn't be a 'state' religion without being a part of the bureaucracy.
regardless roman or western christians have been around WAY before the 7th century.

it doesn't matter what city.

you're struggling with these lies.

its very possible western Christians created a sect to control the east and fight original Christians from the holy land, who weren't puffed up with imperial bullshit.
 
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