"If you wouldn't have been there ..." Judge lectures victim

This thread contains evidence that the conservative base (aging white male) regards women as chattels to be controlled.

I wonder if they will stoop to claiming the victim "asked for it" by "dressing like a slut".

The American religious right is sort of like the fundamentalist Taliban.
 
How is that not close to the same thing? God damn, you're really desperate to defend the indefensible.

Don't you agree that Arizonan women shouldn't put themselves in situations where they could be harmed?

Arizona men must really love their bars. Free grope-abilities for all.
 
This thread contains evidence that the conservative base (aging white male) regards women as chattels to be controlled.

I wonder if they will stoop to claiming the victim "asked for it" by "dressing like a slut".

The American religious right is sort of like the fundamentalist Taliban.

Sort of?
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But sluts are just asking for it, aren't they? They want to be raped!

Of course. You can tell by how they dress!!

Except for the elderly and nuns who get raped as well. Other than that, (oh, and babies. Don't forget the babies) - my point stands.
 
Those sluts should wear something like this so they don't tempt men:


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"BAD THINGS CAN HAPPEN IN BARS

A jury convicted Evans of sexual abuse, a class 5 felony, on July 2.

DPS fired Evans shortly after his criminal conviction and following an internal investigation, according to officials.

The judge sentencing Evans, Coconino County Superior Court Judge Jacqueline Hatch, said she hoped both the defendant and the victim would take lessons away from the case.

Bad things can happen in bars, Hatch told the victim, adding that other people might be more intoxicated than she was.

"If you wouldn't have been there that night, none of this would have happened to you," Hatch said.

Hatch told the victim and the defendant that no one would be happy with the sentence she gave, but that finding an appropriate sentence was her duty.

"I hope you look at what you've been through and try to take something positive out of it," Hatch said to the victim in court. "You learned a lesson about friendship and you learned a lesson about vulnerability."

Hatch said that the victim was not to blame in the case, but that all women must be vigilant against becoming victims.

"When you blame others, you give up your power to change," Hatch said that her mother used to say."

Entire statement.


Interesting method of getting the "whole story". I see where the judge is coming from, when you go out and get smashed, around other people who get smashed, things can happen. This wasn't a male judge condoning a rape, this was a female judge making a statement about bars.

Damnfool woman. Why wasn't she sitting in a corner in her burqa, staking out the room, instead of mingling with friends? Why didn't her spidey senses warn her that this drunken bastard was sneaking up behind her, waiting to grab her genitals? Why wasn't she wearing glasses with little mirrors in the corner to help her be more vigilant against attacks?

Just when you think you've heard everything... :mad:
 
Damnfool woman. Why wasn't she sitting in a corner in her burqa, staking out the room, instead of mingling with friends? Why didn't her spidey senses warn her that this drunken bastard was sneaking up behind her, waiting to grab her genitals? Why wasn't she wearing glasses with little mirrors in the corner to help her be more vigilant against attacks?

Just when you think you've heard everything... :mad:

Obviously, somebody done raised her poorly.
 
Sounds like damn good, sensible advise.....the same advise I would give to my daughter or granddaughter or sister......

People that put themselves in danger have to realize the risk they take.....and act accordingly....

a smoker that gets cancer sure can't act all surprised when he or she gets the bad news.....

Its that old phrase that seems to be foreign to the foolish.....Personal responsibility......

Walking down a city street at 3pm is different than walking that same street at 3am and we all know it....

What a moron you are. This woman had a perfect right to be in the bar with friends, and not be subject to a sneak assault by this drunken, deluded s.o.b. who thought he was above the law, not part of the law. F*ck him and the horse he rode in on.
 
I've been in a thread like this before; long ago, in a galaxy far away.

Little question for Bravo. Good advice, you say. Same advice you'd give any female relative. So say your baby girl was out to a tailgating party (no harm there, right?), and the same thing happened. Would you say so to her face? Would you tell her - this is her fault. She brought it on herself.
 
Women don't belong in bars. Got it.

What century do you actually live in? And - you DO know that you can drink without getting drunk. Right? Or don't you know that.
I know that, that's why I do my drinking at home. Bars are places of drunken disorderly conduct and dumb people doing dumb things. There's a reason why drunken driving gets hit so hard. While alcohol is not an excuse for the conduct of the offender, the victim needs to practice "target hardening". I don't leave my door unlocked or wander into bad neighborhoods sporting large amounts of money,(because I don't have money). Same principle.
 
Damnfool woman. Why wasn't she sitting in a corner in her burqa, staking out the room, instead of mingling with friends? Why didn't her spidey senses warn her that this drunken bastard was sneaking up behind her, waiting to grab her genitals? Why wasn't she wearing glasses with little mirrors in the corner to help her be more vigilant against attacks?

Just when you think you've heard everything... :mad:

She would be stoned according to Sharia Law. Aren't we getting to the point that Republucans are setting up their version of Shara Law?
 
What a moron you are. This woman had a perfect right to be in the bar with friends, and not be subject to a sneak assault by this drunken, deluded s.o.b. who thought he was above the law, not part of the law. F*ck him and the horse he rode in on.

Soon there will be morality police. ;)
 
Damnfool woman. Why wasn't she sitting in a corner in her burqa, staking out the room, instead of mingling with friends? Why didn't her spidey senses warn her that this drunken bastard was sneaking up behind her, waiting to grab her genitals? Why wasn't she wearing glasses with little mirrors in the corner to help her be more vigilant against attacks?

Just when you think you've heard everything... :mad:

I feel like I'm arguing with legion troll about abortion here. (Which I am pro-choice on)

I'm not saying he was right, I'm saying that bars, alcohol and drunken idiots lead to any number of bad situations. If she really wants to avoid sexual harassment of any kind, don't go into these areas. He's been fired, being investigated and serving two years probation. Hardly a slap on the wrist. He's also going into the sex offender registrar meaning pretty much his chances of getting any job ever again are over.
 
I'm fine with the punishment. I am NOT fine with what the judge had to say. *she has since, apparently, apologized.*
 
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