If Warren cares more about America than her own ideology....

Nomad said:
I cannot see how that would do anything but backfire on him and blow up in his face.

Not sure you have a tight handle on the whole "average American's mindset" thing. Threatening a family member or an offspring is bad on its own, but a man going after another man's daughter would be political suicide.

I'm convinced that what the average voter wants to see is the Dem candidate verbally or rhetorically "punch" back, but only Trump himself.

This is campaigning.

All about redirecting and deflecting public attention.
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Look, you said yourself you have to hit back against a bully, and how do you do that? By going after the bully's weakness.

Trump's weakness is his daughter.

If Biden made investigating Ivanka one of his campaign themes, I fully believe Trump would not be able to contain himself and would fuck himself over, so Biden didn't really have to do much of anything other than stand there and watch the car crash happen.

Trump already brought family into this by screeching about Hunter Biden.

So I say, let's drag the one thing Trump cares about through the shit and mud.
 
Nomad said:
Not sure you have a tight handle on the whole "average American's mindset" thing. Threatening a family member or an offspring is bad on its own, but a man going after another man's daughter would be political suicide.
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So explain why it's a viable strategy for Trump to go after Biden's son, but not a viable strategy for Biden to go after Trump's daughter...cuz I gotta be honest bud, what you wrote sure reads fuckin' sexist.
 
TTQ64 said:
Violence........the racist right's solution to everything.
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You just don't get figurative speech, do you?

So not only are you a racist, you're a literalist.

You probably fit several other spots on the "ist" list, too.
 
Nomad said:
I'm convinced that what the average voter wants to see is the Dem candidate verbally or rhetorically "punch" back, but only Drumpf himsel
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I don't understand how you're making this determination. Trump doesn't limit himself to not going after family members...what do you think this whole Burisma thing is about?
 
LV426 said:
Look, you said yourself you have to hit back against a bully, and how do you do that? By going after the bully's weakness.

Trump's weakness is his daughter.

If Biden made investigating Ivanka one of his campaign themes, I fully believe Trump would not be able to contain himself and would fuck himself over, so Biden didn't really have to do much of anything other than stand there and watch the car crash happen.

Trump already brought family into this by screeching about Hunter Biden.

So I say, let's drag the one thing Trump cares about through the shit and mud.
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LV426 said:
So explain why it's a viable strategy for Trump to go after Biden's son, but not a viable strategy for Biden to go after Trump's daughter...cuz I gotta be honest bud, what you wrote sure reads fuckin' sexist.
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What crime or corruption has Ivanka been accused of?

If Trump is investigating Hunter Biden's role at Burisma, he's already doing it. For Biden to talk about or make threats about investigating Ivanka before he's even in office would just look petty and desperate.

It's all about perception.

Something you apparently don't understand.

Americans aren't comfortable with men who pick on or threaten women.
 
LV426 said:
I don't understand how you're making this determination. Trump doesn't limit himself to not going after family members...what do you think this whole Burisma thing is about?
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LV426 said:
Why? Because people like Ivanka Trump? Who are these people and are they voters we care about reaching?
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You are an example of what we call "tone deaf".

See Melania Trump.
 
Nomad said:
What crime or corruption has Ivanka been accused of?
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Ummm, how about the fact that she got 20+ patents from China including patents for voting machines by trading off her family's name.

Or maybe the fact that she owns sweatshops.

Or maybe the fact that she has been installed via nepotism to be an "adviser" to Trump with all those conflicts of interest inherent.

Or, maybe you don't even need anything and you just imply that she's corrupt through her backdoor and under-the-table wheelings and dealings.

There's plenty there: https://www.citizensforethics.org/nepotism-conflicts-interest-jared-kushner-ivanka-trump/
 
Nomad said:
If Drumpf is investigating Hunter Biden's role at Burisma, he's already doing it. For Biden to talk about or make threats about investigating Ivanka before he's even in office would just look petty and desperate..
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What is petty and desperate is posturing "toughness" or "tough talk" that no one believes for a second will be backed by any meaningful action.
 
Nomad said:
What crime or corruption has Ivanka been accused of?

If Trump is investigating Hunter Biden's role at Burisma, he's already doing it. For Biden to talk about or make threats about investigating Ivanka before he's even in office would just look petty and desperate.

It's all about perception.

Something you apparently don't understand.

Americans aren't comfortable with men who pick on or threaten women.
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You can't present yourself as a "return to civility" while also being bellicose in your response to a bully.
 
Nomad said:
You just don't get figurative speech, do you?

So not only are you a racist, you're a literalist.

You probably fit several other spots on the "ist" list, too.
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Doesn't matter if it literal or figurative it's exactly what the racist right does..........turn to violence.
 
LV426 said:
Why? Because people like Ivanka Trump? Who are these people and are they voters we care about reaching?
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It is HE, he's the voter..........those moderate fake dems who are hiding behind the dem party but want to implement republican policies.
 
TTQ64 said:
Doesn't matter if it literal or figurative it's exactly what the racist right does..........turn to violence.
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I truly think that if the Democrats went after Ivanka, it would send Trump into a tailspin and he would commit the unforced errors necessary to remove him from power.

The only thing he cares about more than himself is Ivanka.

Ivanka is his weakness.

I say, go for the fucking throat because there's no way Biden is going to win a policy argument vs. Trump.
 
TTQ64 said:
It is HE, he's the voter..........those moderate fake dems who are hiding behind the dem party but want to implement republican policies.
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It's amazing that they're all like, "yeah, hit the bully back", and then when you propose something that would truly hurt the bully, they're all like "oh no, that's MEAN!"
 
Nomad said:
What crime or corruption has Ivanka been accused of?

If Trump is investigating Hunter Biden's role at Burisma, he's already doing it. For Biden to talk about or make threats about investigating Ivanka before he's even in office would just look petty and desperate.

It's all about perception.

Something you apparently don't understand.

Americans aren't comfortable with men who pick on or threaten women.
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they sure as hell pounded on First Lady Michelle Obama.......didn't hear from you then.

Vote republican.....sounds as if you want to protect the most corrupt family ever in the white house.
 
I'm telling y'all...Trump doesn't have many weaknesses except for his daughter.

She's 38. She's an adult. She's been a part of his administration since the beginning. She is one of his "advisors". She has had a hand in all of this.

DRAG HER.

Trump would lose his fucking mind. It would be glorious.
 
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