If the US defaults on its debt, who will American voters blame the most?

If the US defaults on its debt, who will voters blame the most?


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Congress, specifically the Republicans, are dancing with the Devil when it comes to their threat to default on our nation's debts. Several JPP Trumpers have openly advocated to default on the debt...which indicates to me they are either anti-American or mentally ill.

If McCarthy pushes the United States into default, even for a week, the economic impact will be felt throughout the remainder of the year, if not into next year should the nation fall into recession.

Who will American voters blame in November 2024 after all of this pain?


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/debt-ceiling-breach-states-counties-economic-impact-fallout/
If the U.S. breaches the debt ceiling, these states would feel it most
"Most state economies will be hit hard if there is a debt limit breach, although the economic pain varies," economists at Moody's Analytics said in a report analyzing the possibility of a default....


...Washington, D.C., where 1 in 4 jobs are tied to the federal government, would be hardest hit, becoming the "poster child" for a financial disaster, they said. States with large federal facilities, such as national laboratories or military bases, would be next in line. That includes Hawaii, which is home to the United States Pacific Command and to 11 military bases; Alaska, with vast federal land holdings; and New Mexico, home to Los Alamos National Laboratory...

...Even a short debt ceiling breach, in which the government defaults for less than a week before lawmakers raise the government's borrowing limit, would likely push the economy into a recession, according to Moody's. In this scenario, 1.5 million people would lose their jobs, pushing unemployment from its current rate of 3.4% to 5%, while nation's gross domestic product would shrink by 0.7%...

...Moody's also assesses the potential damage from a default lasting several months, an outcome it said would be "cataclysmic." The federal government would have no option but to slash its spending by about $150 billion. "As these cuts work through the economy, the hit to growth would be overwhelming," Moody's said.

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Probably both, although if 2010 is any example, the last time a GOP House played games with the debt ceiling, it should benefit Congressional Democrats and Biden’s re-election chances
 
Probably both, although if 2010 is any example, the last time a GOP House played games with the debt ceiling, it should benefit Congressional Democrats and Biden’s re-election chances

Like the last time, it will work against the Republicans. They are stupid to play with this.
 
Nobody’s opinions will change, both sides will blame each other

It will have zero impact on future elections

The fact is the republicans have said they will raise the debt ceiling for some very modest spending cuts and the democrats are throwing a tantrum
 
Nobody’s opinions will change, both sides will blame each other

It will have zero impact on future elections

The fact is the republicans have said they will raise the debt ceiling for some very modest spending cuts and the democrats are throwing a tantrum

Define modest. Define tantrum. You are so slanted to the right that you are a joke. You do not use the debt ceiling for political gain. It is perilous to the economy. Extortion is dangerous to use as a political tool.
 
Nobody’s opinions will change, both sides will blame each other

It will have zero impact on future elections

The fact is the republicans have said they will raise the debt ceiling for some very modest spending cuts and the democrats are throwing a tantrum

Care to wager on it, Tink? If the Republicans lose in November 2024, it'll be due to a default and the negative economic impact it had on American voters.
 
Define modest. Define tantrum. You are so slanted to the right that you are a joke. You do not use the debt ceiling for political gain. It is perilous to the economy. Extortion is dangerous to use as a political tool.

They didn’t want to, these are the same cuts they tried to negotiate in the 2020 budget but democrats refused to talk

If we don’t cut spending we will have to raise the debt ceiling again which leads to higher inflation and job loss

The republicans are trying to end this cycle while democrats don’t care
 
People want to hope that this has happened via incompetence.....yes people are generally really dumb now but the people driving this know exactly where they are headed......mass brutality.
 
People want to hope that this has happened via incompetence.....yes people are generally really dumb now but the people driving this know exactly where they are headed......mass brutality.
There will be plenty of money for WW3 and the upcoming bank bailouts. There's still endless QE going to international zombie companies no matter what is being said about tightening.
 
There will be plenty of money for WW3 and the upcoming bank bailouts. There's still endless QE going to international zombie companies no matter what is being said about tightening.

The people I listen to are pretty sure that most of the banks are going away....they are not needed in the fed digital currency system....paper money is going away. Actually you could argue that currency is going away, these digital systems we will be using use points that we will not control, our overlords will control them. When I told my brother that some are talking about how digital money could go away if we dont use it during the allotted time he got got upset....he said that I must be joking.....but it is right in the plans that our rulers talk about.
 
The people I listen to are pretty sure that most of the banks are going away....they are not needed in the fed digital currency system....paper money is going away. Actually you could argue that currency is going away, these digital systems we will be using use points that we will not control, our overlords will control them. When I told my brother that some are talking about how digital money could go away if we dont use it during the allotted time he got got upset....he said that I must be joking.....but it is right in the plans that our rulers talk about.
Banksters are investing in crypto. They know centralized banking is a bad fit for 21st century trade. No one wants a dozen politicians deciding sanctions and default.
 
Banksters are investing in crypto. They know centralized banking is a bad fit for 21st century trade. No one wants a dozen politicians deciding sanctions and default.

I doubt it....the Regime has been very clear how they feel about crypto....and the banker types can be counted on to do as they are told.....just look at ESG.
 
They didn’t want to, these are the same cuts they tried to negotiate in the 2020 budget but democrats refused to talk

If we don’t cut spending we will have to raise the debt ceiling again which leads to higher inflation and job loss

The republicans are trying to end this cycle while democrats don’t care

This post shows what clowns, republiclowns are and how dumb they are when it comes to the debt ceiling.

For sake of argument lets say Biden and McCarthy agree to a 75% cut to the debt ceiling and they make all the appropriate social cuts to make it work.

Then lets assume Trump and Republicans have full control again in 2024.

HEre is what you DO NOT understand.

The Debt ceiling b eing reduced 75% under Biden DOES NOTHING, not one thing to prevent Trumpa nd Republicans passing budgets that make the Trump 2016 term spending and Biden 2020 term spending look modest in comparison.


NOTHING.
NOTHING.
NOTHING.

That is because those who set the budget DO NOT have to worry about the debt ceiling at the time. It is the people who have to pay the bills later who do. So Trump would just demand, and get a new raised debt ceiling or if it is a Dem in charge they would demand no new debt ceiling and the Dems do more cuts.

Stupid people think the Debt Ceiling curtails future spending when it DOES NOT. Trump blew thru every debt ceiling without a single consideration in the past and would do so in the future.

So everyone on republiclown side needs to be less stupid and stop pretending that budgets are set on what the debt celling is reduced to as that has NEVER been the case.

The only place to control future spending is the Congress budget process and not the debt ceiling.
 
This post shows what clowns, republiclowns are and how dumb they are when it comes to the debt ceiling.

For sake of argument lets say Biden and McCarthy agree to a 75% cut to the debt ceiling and they make all the appropriate social cuts to make it work.

Then lets assume Trump and Republicans have full control again in 2024.

HEre is what you DO NOT understand.

The Debt ceiling b eing reduced 75% under Biden DOES NOTHING, not one thing to prevent Trumpa nd Republicans passing budgets that make the Trump 2016 term spending and Biden 2020 term spending look modest in comparison.


NOTHING.
NOTHING.
NOTHING.

That is because those who set the budget DO NOT have to worry about the debt ceiling at the time. It is the people who have to pay the bills later who do. So Trump would just demand, and get a new raised debt ceiling or if it is a Dem in charge they would demand no new debt ceiling and the Dems do more cuts.

Stupid people think the Debt Ceiling curtails future spending when it DOES NOT. Trump blew thru every debt ceiling without a single consideration in the past and would do so in the future.

So everyone on republiclown side needs to be less stupid and stop pretending that budgets are set on what the debt celling is reduced to as that has NEVER been the case.

The only place to control future spending is the Congress budget process and not the debt ceiling.

Here’s what you don’t understand..

If you cut spending to an appropriate level you won’t have to raise the debt ceiling
 
I doubt it....the Regime has been very clear how they feel about crypto....and the banker types can be counted on to do as they are told.....just look at ESG.
The deep state black ops with drugs and weapons trafficking is most likely done with crypto so the top echelon of our overlords know its importance. Most honest economists will tell you the fed is insolvent. Only to top market makers know when they'll trigger the next panic. Pelosi will be among the first to receive a warning.
 
The deep state black ops with drugs and weapons trafficking is most likely done with crypto so the top echelon of our overlords know its importance. Most honest economists will tell you the fed is insolvent. Only to top market makers know when they'll trigger the next panic. Pelosi will be among the first to receive a warning.

Hmmmmmm.
 
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