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Yakuda said:
Goodness gracious stop it. I never denied the existence of political prisoners.
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Don't try to deny your own posts. ANYONE can read them.
Yakuda said:
This is the same tactic leftists use.
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I agree. Denial of the truth is very common among Democrats. I don't want you make the same mistake.
Yakuda said:
Don't do that. What I said was I don't like presidents having unilateral power to pardon people.
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What about political prisoners?
Yakuda said:
That is not the same as denying the existence of political prisoners.
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True, yet you DID deny the existence of political prisoners. Now you claim they exist. Which is it, dude? You can only use ONE of the conflicting arguments. A paradox is irrational.
Yakuda said:
The problem is people you think are political prisoners other people think are criminals.
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So? The people that imprisoned them think they are criminals. Does that make a political prisoner an actual criminal?

What law was broken by a political prisoner?
Yakuda said:
I don't know the solution
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Fair enough.
Yakuda said:
and I don't need to know the solution
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There already is a solution. A pardon by an executive, such as a governor or the President.
Yakuda said:
but i know one person with that much power is not necessarily a good idea but I'm happy to hear your argument for it.
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Okay. Here's my argument:

There is a such a thing as a political prisoner. It matters not if the political party imprisoning him thinks he's a criminal. Such prisoner has broken no law but is nevertheless imprisoned as a 'criminal'.

Therefore, justice demands that such prisoner be freed (pardoned) and those responsible for the false imprisonment be convicted and serve time for false imprisonment.

So pardoning such a prisoner is part of simple justice.

The people that Trump pardoned were not rioting, looting, committing any arson, etc. Indeed, they were ESCORTED through the capital building (the place is a maze!). Others that entered through the front doors LEFT when asked.

All while outside, FBI agents fomenting rioters among Democrat plants and the whole plot of the pipe 'bomb' were all planned months in advance by Democrats and Nancy Pelosi.

So again, justice demands that these Democrats and Nancy Pelosi serve time.
Justice also demands that any judge the imprisons political prisoners serve time for false imprisonment and exceeding their authority.
Justice also demands that any judge that lets out hard criminals time after time are therefore just as guilty as the criminals they keep letting out.

Yet people that have never broken any law are imprisoned, and people that have committed crimes (and their accomplices including these judges) never even face a trial, or of they do, are set free again and again despite their lengthy criminal record.

Is it any wonder that police, that risk life and limb to arrest these violent thugs, feel pretty demoralized when judges keep setting them free?

Yakuda said:
However telling me I'm denying the existence of political prisoners is not a compelling argument.
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So at this point I am going to assume that your earlier claim is rejected by you, thus resolving the paradox.

You now admit that political prisoners exist. So I ask again...what about them? Do you think it's worth the justice of giving an executive leader (such as a governor or President) authority to pardon such?

The Constitution of the United States gives the President power of pardon for any offenses against the United States (except impeachment).
The constitution of every State gives the governor power of pardon for any offenses against that State (again, impeachment is usually exempted).

So what you are suggesting is to deny the Constitutions that give these people this authority.

Only the States have the power to change the Constitution of the United States.
Only the people of a State have the power to change the constitution of that State.
 
Jarod said:
In what way does one of those pieces disprove the other?
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I get it, you lie because the facts destroy the fiction your shameful party is desperate to sell.

{
But Loretta, his grandmother, said Cole has no party affiliation and never votes.

Rather, he keeps to himself, living in his mother’s basement in Woodbridge, Virginia, where he’s been grieving the loss of his beloved pet chihuahua, while working a data entry job for his family’s bail bonds business.

‘He’s not politically affiliated with anything,’ the grandmother told the Daily Mail during an interview at her home in Gainesville, Virginia. 'He has no social media contacts. He’s never online going back and forth with politics or anything like that. He says he don’t like either party.

'He’s borderline autistic,’ she added. 'He’s slow. He may be 30, but he’s got the mind of a 16-year-old. That’s why we’re thinking - What the hell? What’s going on?’} - https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/202...t-maga-hes-a-basement-dwelling-loner-n3809608

Hey, you lied about being a lawyer - no surprise you're lying now.
 
 
Into the Night said:
Don't try to deny your own posts. ANYONE can read them.

I agree. Denial of the truth is very common among Democrats. I don't want you make the same mistake.

What about political prisoners?

True, yet you DID deny the existence of political prisoners. Now you claim they exist. Which is it, dude? You can only use ONE of the conflicting arguments. A paradox is irrational.

So? The people that imprisoned them think they are criminals. Does that make a political prisoner an actual criminal?

What law was broken by a political prisoner?

Fair enough.

There already is a solution. A pardon by an executive, such as a governor or the President.

Okay. Here's my argument:

There is a such a thing as a political prisoner. It matters not if the political party imprisoning him thinks he's a criminal. Such prisoner has broken no law but is nevertheless imprisoned as a 'criminal'.

Therefore, justice demands that such prisoner be freed (pardoned) and those responsible for the false imprisonment be convicted and serve time for false imprisonment.

So pardoning such a prisoner is part of simple justice.

The people that Trump pardoned were not rioting, looting, committing any arson, etc. Indeed, they were ESCORTED through the capital building (the place is a maze!). Others that entered through the front doors LEFT when asked.

All while outside, FBI agents fomenting rioters among Democrat plants and the whole plot of the pipe 'bomb' were all planned months in advance by Democrats and Nancy Pelosi.

So again, justice demands that these Democrats and Nancy Pelosi serve time.
Justice also demands that any judge the imprisons political prisoners serve time for false imprisonment and exceeding their authority.
Justice also demands that any judge that lets out hard criminals time after time are therefore just as guilty as the criminals they keep letting out.

Yet people that have never broken any law are imprisoned, and people that have committed crimes (and their accomplices including these judges) never even face a trial, or of they do, are set free again and again despite their lengthy criminal record.

Is it any wonder that police, that risk life and limb to arrest these violent thugs, feel pretty demoralized when judges keep setting them free?


So at this point I am going to assume that your earlier claim is rejected by you, thus resolving the paradox.

You now admit that political prisoners exist. So I ask again...what about them? Do you think it's worth the justice of giving an executive leader (such as a governor or President) authority to pardon such?

The Constitution of the United States gives the President power of pardon for any offenses against the United States (except impeachment).
The constitution of every State gives the governor power of pardon for any offenses against that State (again, impeachment is usually exempted).

So what you are suggesting is to deny the Constitutions that give these people this authority.

Only the States have the power to change the Constitution of the United States.
Only the people of a State have the power to change the constitution of that State.
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Copy and paste where I denied the existence of political prisoners.

The rest I didn't bother to read because you started off so egregiously wrong
 
Into the Night said:
He was an FBI plant, Pretender.
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I don't think so. But he is a leftist - and black. @Jarod and CNN have been lying with all they have to try and distort the facts.

That Jeri and CNN would so blatantly lie that this was a white, MAGA supporter shows the depth of lies the left is engaged in daily. It's utterly disgusting and pathetic. No one should ever believe a single word from Jeri or CNN - they are lying to your face as the facts contradict them in real time.

 
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