If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

[ZenMode]

It is nothing but blind guessing.

The religionists insist they are not guessing also.

You atheists are the same way.

Go in peace.

If by blind guessing you mean that there isn't a hundred percent certainty, of course. By virtue of the fact that we experience, first hand, very, very little of what we actually believe, we are all just looking at available evidence and drawing conclusions

The evidence for the Christian God is weak. The stories in the Bible are ridiculous by today's scientific standards, But those kinds of stories were the norm back then and not just for believers in the Christian God.

 

[gfm7175]

You've never walked over a frozen lake before? You've never walked over wet asphalt before?

 

[ZenMode]

You've never walked over a frozen lake before?

You mean all the frozen lakes in the Middle East? Why would walking on a frozen lake be notable?

You've never walked over wet asphalt before?

So, every time it rained, people were just performing miracles all over the place?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Having genuine faith in Christ is supposed to change you ethically. That's what the Protestants teach.

If you don't notice any ethical improvement at all, it means your faith was not genuine.

That's what makes Christianity unique among world religions. It's not a merit based religion where you earn points towards salvation. Grace was freely given by the life and death of Christ.

While that's true, the grace comes at the price of sincere repentance. MAGAts and psychos are severely lacking in sincere repentance.

 

[gfm7175]

You mean all the frozen lakes in the Middle East?

I mean ANY frozen lake ANYWHERE.

Why would walking on a frozen lake be notable?

I never claimed that it was. ANYONE can do it. That's precisely the point that I am making. ANYONE can walk on water.

So, every time it rained, people were just performing miracles all over the place?

It's not a miracle to walk on water. However, the precise manner in which Jesus (and Peter, for a bit) did it WAS a miracle.

 

[Cypress]

While that's true, the grace comes at the price of sincere repentance. MAGAts and psychos are severely lacking in sincere repentance.

Agreed, repentance plays a big role in it.

Repentance to MAGA morons is like garlic to vampires.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

A short little Youtube from a former evangelical pastor. Did the fire and brimstone shit for decades until he finally came to his senses. For those of you who are in denial or wish to remain willfully ignorant, he basically says this:

“Christians go in with their god as an assumption rather than a conclusion. When in fact, after close examination, the virgin birth falls apart, the resurrection falls apart, the basis of morality falls apart, the promise of afterlife fizzles into fear based marketing.”

“The gods of Islam, of Judaism, of Christianity only exist in scripture. If they actually existed, we wouldn’t need the books to claim they did. Once the book fails, the god goes with it.”

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/gI_OCjTkQG4?si=cyukCFBlj2u2kI4k

the basis of morality does not fall apart if you basis is the golden rule.

reciprocity works.

morality works.

that's why Satan hates morality.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Agreed, repentance plays a big role in it.

Repentance to MAGA morons is like garlic to vampires.

shame is a useless emotion.

moral people act morally in the first place.

see the golden rule.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Agreed, repentance plays a big role in it.

Repentance to MAGA morons is like garlic to vampires.

Sadly, the price is easily within their grasp, but they can't let go of their hate.

 

[Cypress]

shame is a useless emotion.

moral people act morally in the first place.

see the golden rule!

So you have no regrets for all the times you've disparaged blacks, Jews, Hispanics, cursed other posters out without provocation, or indulged your porn addiction.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

So you have no regrets for all the times you've disparaged blacks, Jews, Hispanics, cursed other posters out without provocation, or indulged your porn addiction.

I have done no such thing, so no.

do you feel bad about lying right now?

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

So you have no regrets for all the times you've disparaged blacks, Jews, Hispanics, cursed other posters out without provocation, or indulged your porn addiction.

you're a genocidal Zionist kill freak so go fuck yourself.

 

[Into the Night]

ok, tooth fairy manager.

you're an idiotic fool, Zionist butt eater.

YARP.

 

[Into the Night]

Bullshit.

The Bible is almost certainly of no more value in understanding the REALITY of existence than are the myths and legends of Egypt, Greece, and Rome.

Buzzword fallacy (real). Go learn what 'real' means and how it's defined. Omniscience fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

yet it's considered a fallacy without other arguments.

Fallacy fallacy. RAAA

 

[Into the Night]

That really doesn't explain why you wanted to limit theism to just the gods written about in ancient Scripture.

Explain why the type of theisms Spinoza, Jefferson, Einstein believed in is so foolish and so inferior to your beliefs.

YARP. Random words. No apparent coherency.

 

[Into the Night]

What is the evidence for the Christian god/Jesus?

RQAA.

There are stories written about them both, that make claims that go against much of what we know to be possible as it relates biology, physics, etc. bushes don't burn without being consumed.

RAAA.

Bushes don't talk and people don't talk through bushes - it's simply not possible.

It is not possible to talk through bush?? It certainly is, moron.

The Bible claims God stopped the sun in the sky. In order for that to happen, he would have to stop the rotation of the Earth. If that were to happen, the people of Earth, specifically the ones that lived in the part of the world where Jesus lived, would suddenly be thrown to the east at a speed of approximately 800 miles per hour.

RAAA.

Humans can't walk on top of water.

They can and do. I do it myself fairly regularly.

There's no reason to believe these aren't all fairy tales made up by superstitious men and without those miracles,

Go learn what 'superstition' means, Void. Buzzword fallacy.

Jesus/God was just some regular guy on earth.

If so, why does He worry you so much?

 

[Cypress]

I have done no such thing, so no.

do you feel bad about lying right now?

No, because I've seen your posts disparaging blacks and Jews, and you routinely curse me out with the foulest of language without provocation.

 

[Into the Night]

The knowledge claim of atheism is that there are no gods.

Redefinition fallacy (atheism<->Church of No God).

Agnosticism is the position that does not make explicit knowledge claims.

Redefinition fallacy (agnostic<->atheist).

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

No, because I've seen your posts disparaging blacks and Jews, and you routinely curse me out with the foulest of language without provocation.

I have done no such thing.

do you have a link?