If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

I do disbelieve your claim...and that has nothing to do with what implicit atheism is. In fact it has nothing to do with religion at all.

It has everything to do with the rubric.

The fact that you can't understand this is exactly what I was talking about. You are way out of your depth here, Cletus. Stick with NASCAR.
 
You can't blame your word games on me or anybody else, Void.

Feeling schizophrenic again? You are just one person, Void.
I guess you don't know what 'random' means either.

Buzzword fallacy.

No theory of science governs anything.
Right, so for the non-trolls and non-idiots....

Long before man/scientists discovered electrons and how electrons move, there were rules/laws**, even if undiscovered, that distracted how they moved. It wasn't random.

** If you don't like the words rules/laws, that's fine. Pick whatever word you like that expresses not moving randomly....just stop being dumb.

Thanks.
 
From the religious perspective, if a higher law-giver created the natural laws, this law-giver is not living in the gaps.
I'm not talking about the religious perspective. I'm specifically talking about the Non-religious view. Religion= God of the gaps.

Non-religious= simply unexplained, but explainable without a sky wizard.
 
From the religious perspective, if a higher law-giver created the natural laws, this law-giver is not living in the gaps.
I have no idea what ZenMode means by 'gaps'. It's a buzzword he came up with.
That perspective is that science discovers how god works. It's not shrinking god to the gaps.
Fair enough.
There is no realistic chance science and the worldview of physical materialism will ever adequately explain why the universe was created,
How do you know the Universe was created at all?

Science has no theory about any past unobserved event.
why the natural laws and universal physical constants exist, and where they came from.
Every theory of science was created by Man. Every physical constant was created by Man. Their purpose is to convert a relation to our units of measurement.
I also personally believe we will never adequately be able to replicate or understand the origin of biology and bioinformation, or consciousness either.
Biology was created by Man. This is a branch of science, all of which is also created by Man.
What is 'bioinformatoin'? Why would it have an origin?
Those are always to going to be philosophical questions.
Go learn what philosophy is.
 
It has everything to do with the rubric.

It has nothing to do with the topic.

And you still have not had the guts to answer my questions...mostly because you realize that the answers show your assertions to be bullshit.

Answer them. Two questions...both need either a YES or a NO.
The fact that you can't understand this is exactly what I was talking about. You are way out of your depth here, Cletus. Stick with NASCAR.

Son, you are not even close. I could engage you in a rated debate you on this topic and the moderator would probably stop the debate quickly judging you to be WAY over-matched.

But I appreciate you thinking you are so much more informed on the subject. If you were, you would be able to answer my questions.

Now...back to the NFL.
 
Right, so for the non-trolls and non-idiots....
Buzzword fallacy. Mantra 1a.
Long before man/scientists discovered electrons and how electrons move, there were rules/laws**, even if undiscovered, that distracted how they moved. It wasn't random.
Electrons move at random.
No theory of science governs anything. Science isn't a 'discovery'.
** If you don't like the words rules/laws, that's fine. Pick whatever word you like that expresses not moving randomly....just stop being dumb.

Thanks.
Electrons move randomly. The Universe is unorganized (random).
 
I ALSO DO NOT BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY GODS.

Then you misunderstand my postion. I do not make such a claim. I make no claim whatsoever.


AND, OF COURSE, I ALSO DO NOT BELIEVE THERE ARE NO GODS.

Can't imagine why you feel the need to have nested multiple negatives in a sentence except to make yourself feel like you are smart by constructing such a golem.

It doesn't help your case. Especially in light of the first claim.

Here's what it means: you believe there are gods. Now compare that with claim #1 you made. (map out the negatives. You do NOT believe there are NO gods which means you believe there are gods. It's grammar.)

(Not the same thing!)

No, you are right. They seem mutually exclusive.

So...discuss.

Yeah, you're a dumbass who mentally masturbates online.
 
Then you misunderstand my postion. I do not make such a claim. I make no claim whatsoever.




Can't imagine why you feel the need to have nested multiple negatives in a sentence except to make yourself feel like you are smart by constructing such a golem.

It doesn't help your case. Especially in light of the first claim.

Here's what it means: you believe there are gods. Now compare that with claim #1 you made. (map out the negatives. You do NOT believe there are NO gods which means you believe there are gods. It's grammar.)



No, you are right. They seem mutually exclusive.



Yeah, you're a dumbass who mentally masturbates online.
Who doesn't "mentally masturbates online"!
 
Right, so for the non-trolls and non-idiots....
You mean other than yourself?
Long before man/scientists discovered electrons and how electrons move, there were rules/laws**,
None. Electrons move randomly.
No rule or law existed until someone created it. Science is not 'discovery'.
even if undiscovered, that distracted how they moved. It wasn't random.
Electrons move randomly. Science is not 'discovery'. No theory of science governs anything.
** If you don't like the words rules/laws, that's fine.
It is YOU denying theories of science. You can't blame your problems on me.
Pick whatever word you like that expresses not moving randomly....just stop being dumb.

Thanks.
Random means random. Electrons move randomly.
 
You mean other than yourself?

None. Electrons move randomly.
No rule or law existed until someone created it. Science is not 'discovery'.

Electrons move randomly. Science is not 'discovery'. No theory of science governs anything.

It is YOU denying theories of science. You can't blame your problems on me.

Random means random. Electrons move randomly.
"Electrons move randomly."

Lol....this from the person who claims to be all about science.

You aren't to be taken seriously.
 
So why do you play dumb?
Electrons move between energy levels by absorbing or emitting specific amounts of energy, usually as a photon (a particle of light). To jump to a higher level (excitation), they absorb energy exactly matching the gap; to fall back down (emission), they release that energy, creating light of a specific color/wavelength, a key part of an element's atomic spectrum. They don't "travel" through space but rather transition between probability clouds (orbitals), changing their wave shape as they change energy states.

How it works:
Excitation (Jumping Up):
An electron absorbs a photon (or other energy) with energy exactly equal to the difference between its current energy level and a higher one.

This absorption excites the electron, causing it to jump to a higher, less stable energy level (an "excited state").

Emission (Falling Down):
Electrons in excited states quickly fall back to lower energy levels, often the ground state (lowest level).

As they fall, they release the excess energy as a photon of light.

The energy, frequency, and wavelength of this emitted photon are unique to the energy difference between the levels, producing an element's characteristic spectral lines (like colors).

Quantum Jumps:
These transitions are often called "quantum leaps" or "jumps," but electrons don't physically move through the space in between.

Instead, their wave-like nature changes instantly from one orbital shape (probability cloud) to another, without passing through intermediate positions, notes West Texas A&M University.

Key Concepts:
Energy Levels: Electrons exist in specific, quantized energy shells (or orbitals).
Quantized Energy: Only specific energy amounts are allowed, meaning electrons can only jump specific distances.

Spectroscopy: The specific wavelengths of light absorbed or emitted by an element reveal its unique energy level structure, notes Harper College.

You are a troll who shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
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