If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

[Hume]

Ok. Simply killing civilians also can't be the only requirement for genocide. If it was, every war would involve genocide.

The SYSTEMATIC killing of civilians.

 

[IBDaMann]

It also doesn't mean there isn't a herd of unicorns living in my basement.

You're starting to see why your comments are merely wastes of bandwidth.

 

[ZenMode]

The SYSTEMATIC killing of civilians.

WIth the intent of wiping out a group. Do you think Israel's actions reflect an attempt to wipe out all Gazans?

 

[Into the Night]

Not by accepted definition of genocide.

HAMAS is not a signatory to the Geneva Convention, Hugo.

 

[Into the Night]

Not by accepted definition of genocide.

'Accepted'? The meaning of the word 'genocide' has not changed, Hugo.

 

[IBDaMann]

Ok. Simply killing civilians also can't be the only requirement for genocide. If it was, every war would involve genocide.

Genocide has been formally defined, and that definition has been ratified by Israel, the US, and almost every other country.

 

[IBDaMann]

HAMAS is not a signatory to the Geneva Convention, Hugo.

Immaterial. Israel is a signatory.

 

[Into the Night]

Accepted by who? I mean, there was a worldwide convention after WWII to define and outlaw genocide and you don't support their definition?

Irrelevant. HAMAS is not a signatory to the Geneva Convention.

 

[Into the Night]

Killing civilians systematically is fundamental to definition of genocide.

So Democrats are committing genocide. Gotit.

 

[Into the Night]

You do not have to be 100% successful to commit genocide.

Therefore, Democrats commit genocide, according to your weird definition.

 

[Into the Night]

but is Geneva conventions really a source for morality?

Yes.

 

[Into the Night]

Genocide has been formally defined, and that definition has been ratified by Israel, the US, and almost every other country.

But not HAMAS.

 

[Into the Night]

Immaterial. Israel is a signatory.

Israel isn't killing civilians (other than secondary losses in warfare). HAMAS is. NOTHING outlaws warfare in the Geneva Convention.

 

[goat]

but is Geneva conventions really a source for morality?

It may take a decade or 2 but there's a small chance a 21st century version of the Nuremberg trials will be held in Tel Aviv.

 

[ZenMode]

Genocide has been formally defined, and that definition has been ratified by Israel, the US, and almost every other country.

Ok. There's no reasonable by which Israel is trying to commit genocide because any reasonable definition would include intent.

 

[Into the Night]

The SYSTEMATIC killing of civilians.

Okay...then Democrats are guilty of genocide, according to your weird definition.

 

[IBDaMann]

Well....IF A GOD EXISTS...everything would be evidence that it exists.

Why?

What Frank Apisa Ross Dolan should have written is that IF A CREATOR EXISTS ...all of creation would be evidence of that He exists.

 

[IBDaMann]

Ok. There's no reasonable by which

Irrelevant. There is a firm, concrete definition to which Israel formally agreed, for which Israel is a convention signatory, and that Israel ratified in its Knesset. That is all that matters.

The US is also a signatory to this definition and has ratified it in Congress.

 

[Cypress]

That's right.

Irrelevant. There is no such thing as an absolute morality.

Redefinition fallacy (morality<->void).

So your position is atheists, cultural relativists, and human secularists do not believe female genital mutilation and head hunting are inherently wrong, because they are sanctioned by the societies they exist in.

That's weird. I don't think you actually believe that to your core, you just painted yourself into a corner with your defence of moral relativism.

 

[IBDaMann]

God is a useless claim since it is unfalsifiable.

Incorrect. All religion is unfalsifiable, and every religious person finds value and usefulness in his religion.