If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

gmark77 said:
Oh goody! Another moron who doesn't understand the concept is going to decree who can think what. Thus sayeth the LORD ALMIGHTY ROSS.

Fuck off, Ross. I couldn't care less what a know-nothing like you thinks about....ANYTHING.
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My bet is that I hit the nail squarely on its head.

But we can test that...if you have more balls than Zen. Let's see.

You designate yourself an atheist...and I just said that almost certainly means you have one of two beliefs. You are indicating I am full of shit...so...

...I say you "believe" there are no gods...or...

...you "believe" it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one.

Are you saying that neither of those are "beliefs" of yours?

C'mon. Tell me you do not "believe" there are no gods...

...and you also do not "believe" it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one.

C'mon.

You can even lie about it.
 
Monad Portal said:
versus

you have presented two conflicting definitions of agnosticism in this rancid post of stupidity!!
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Think man, think!

"Have not ruled out" is not a knowledge claim nor is it a truth claim.
It is an acknowledgment that you do not presently know for sure one way or the other.

Cypress said:
So once again, you are obviously agnostic because you only disbelieve ancient Iron age gods, but have not ruled out philosophically that there is a higher rational agency underlying the universe.
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Cypress said:
That's not the definition of atheist.

If you look in the dictionary, it does not define atheist as disbelief in the ancient Iron age gods that annoy Zenmode.

There are more modern philosophical or naturalistic views of god or the divine universal, aka pantheism, deism, transcendentalism, wicca, etc.

So once again, you are obviously agnostic because you only disbelieve ancient Iron age gods, but have not ruled out philosophically that there is a higher rational agency underlying the universe.

"I do not know" is agnosticism.

You still keep studiously avoiding answering how something can come from nothing, how the rational can come from the irrational, how lawful order can come from random chance and chaos.

Those aren't abstract, esoteric questions. Those are questions you can relate to your real life experience.
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The only gods that there's any evidence for are those written about by man, so those are the only ones I address.

Any other unidentified gods are just ''god of the gaps" type of stuff.
 
Cypress said:
Think man, think!

"Have not ruled out" is not a knowledge claim nor is it a truth claim.
It is an acknowledgment that you do not presently know for sure one way or the other.
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ya but all that shit about "but have not ruled out ..." is not part of the definition of agnosticism.

you're wordstuffing.
 
Ross Dolan said:
My bet is that I hit the nail squarely on its head.

But we can test that...if you have more balls than Zen. Let's see.

You designate yourself an atheist...and I just said that almost certainly means you have one of two beliefs. You are indicating I am full of shit...so...

...I say you "believe" there are no gods...or...

...you "believe" it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one.

Are you saying that neither of those are "beliefs" of yours?

C'mon. Tell me you do not "believe" there are no gods...

...and you also do not "believe" it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one.

C'mon.

You can even lie about it.
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LOL. I love how your magic phrase has some deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep meaning to you while virtually no one else gives fuck.

I simply fail to believe in people's claims of God.

That is too hard for you to understand and that is really, really sad for you.

Because you don't understand how science or the US Justice system works. Hopefully you don't vote.
 
gmark77 said:
LOL. I love how your magic phrase has some deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep meaning to you while virtually no one else gives fuck.
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Okay...I see how you feel...and like you, I don't much give a shit how you view me or my comments.
gmark77 said:
I simply fail to believe in people's claims of God.
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So do I...and I have not chosen to use the self-descriptor atheist. You have. I am saying the reason you have more likely is because of a belief (blind guess) than because you fail to believe in some god.

Anyway, you have not answered either of those questions...even after I suggested you could lie and pretend you the answer to both is NO.

Wonder why that is?
gmark77 said:
That is too hard for you to understand and that is really, really sad for you.
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Not sure why you think I do not understand it. I DO UNDERSTAND IT.

I wish you could understand what I am saying. (Actually, I think you do, but you want to defend your "I are a atheist" bullshit and continue to pretend the only reason you are is because of a lack of belief. YOU DO NOT HAVE A LACK OF BELIEF...YOU SIMPLY HAVE BELIEFS THAT ARE IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THEISTS AND RELIGIONISTS.

Why not show me I am wrong by answering the questions.
gmark77 said:
Because you don't understand how science or the US Justice system works. Hopefully you don't vote.
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I do vote...and I understand how science works...and how the US justice system works. Probably better than you.

You seem to be unravelling. Don't do that. Stand tall, my friend. Don't let anyone see you sweat.
 
Ross Dolan said:
Okay...I see how you feel...and like you, I don't much give a shit how you view me or my comments.


So do I...and I have not chosen to use the self-descriptor atheist. You have. I am saying the reason you have more likely is because of a belief (blind guess) than because you fail to believe in some god.

Anyway, you have not answered either of those questions...even after I suggested you could lie and pretend you the answer to both is NO.

Wonder why that is?


Not sure why you think I do not understand it. I DO UNDERSTAND IT.

I wish you could understand what I am saying. (Actually, I think you do, but you want to defend your "I are a atheist" bullshit and continue to pretend the only reason you are is because of a lack of belief. YOU DO NOT HAVE A LACK OF BELIEF...YOU SIMPLY HAVE BELIEFS THAT ARE IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THEISTS AND RELIGIONISTS.

Why not show me I am wrong by answering the questions.

I do vote...and I understand how science works...and how the US justice system works. Probably better than you.

You seem to be unravelling. Don't do that. Stand tall, my friend. Don't let anyone see you sweat.
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you're just a pompous ass who can't admit what words mean.

like every dumbass Democrat fool
 
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