If Evolution is true, how did DNA code itself

No problem with believers.
But to be clear, faith means belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

Evolution is the theory that is being developed to EXPLAIN the logical proof and material evidence.

Faith is clearly therapeutic to some. god bless them.
But faith is antithetical to science, has been ever since Galileo.

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Mott the Hoople said:
No and no. In principle it's easily falsifiable but we're straying from the point of this thread and going over ground we've been to before. Ultimately a theory is only as useful as the predictions it makes that can be tested and independently verified. In that respect it is one of the single most important scientific theories ever, not withstanding your disagreement with it and will remain so until some empirical evidence is discovered that falsifies it are until a better scientific model is discovered.
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Ok, how does one falsify evolution?
 
domer76 said:
You morons try to think of natural selection as stepwise "improvement". Here's a clue, moron. It has no direction.
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There may be no natural selection. See this theory goes that errors in code improve the species. This may be true, but can something that improves a species really be termed an error? Just think, what we see as errors are actually just the code running itself, we do not understand how it works, as the more we learn the more questions there are.

DNA is a blueprint, and a computer with operating system, that reinvents and evolves itself as the environment decides is best with every generation.

Cry all you want, science is proving this, and that computers and operating systems do not grow in ponds from nothing, they are built by engineers, one who wears the badge of God
 
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Conspiracy theory. For these assertions to be correct would require a consensus of scientists around the world.

"There may be no natural selection." TD

So Bruce, the guy with the high-voltage cattle prod FORCED your Mom to marry your Dad ?!

Here's a clue. Selection is either natural, or artificial. Pick one. BUT !! If you pick the latter, you'll have to specify the artificial agent. Good luck with that.

"See this theory goes that errors in code improve the species."

No.
The SCIENCE is DNA coding errors ("mutations") CHANGE characteristics. Whether that change will be beneficial to the species depends upon independent factors, including environmental, etc.
A mutation that adds a thicker, heat insulating layer of fur may be a TITANIC survival benefit to polar bears. But it could be a death sentence to a camel. It depends on multiple factors.

"This may be true, but can something that improves a species really be termed an error?" TD

Yes.
It is an error in DNA duplication, that results in a beneficial change; a rare occurrence perhaps. But over the eons, they have a cumulative affect.
 
sear said:
#203 & #204

Conspiracy theory. For these assertions to be correct would require a consensus of scientists around the world.

"There may be no natural selection." TD

So Bruce, the guy with the high-voltage cattle prod FORCED your Mom to marry your Dad ?!

Here's a clue. Selection is either natural, or artificial. Pick one. BUT !! If you pick the latter, you'll have to specify the artificial agent. Good luck with that.

"See this theory goes that errors in code improve the species."

No.
The SCIENCE is DNA coding errors ("mutations") CHANGE characteristics. Whether that change will be beneficial to the species depends upon independent factors, including environmental, etc.
A mutation that adds a thicker, heat insulating layer of fur may be a TITANIC survival benefit to polar bears. But it could be a death sentence to a camel. It depends on multiple factors.

"This may be true, but can something that improves a species really be termed an error?" TD

Yes.
It is an error in DNA duplication, that results in a beneficial change; a rare occurrence perhaps. But over the eons, they have a cumulative affect.
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The fact is that all evolution is based upon errors, some errors are neutral, some are bad and some are beneficial. That said they are still all errors in code, or so the people who laid this theory said. This theory was laid long before DNA was even discovered, but people like you refuse to accept this.

 
TheDonald said:
There may be no natural selection. See this theory goes that errors in code improve the species. This may be true, but can something that improves a species really be termed an error? Just think, what we see as errors are actually just the code running itself, we do not understand how it works, as the more we learn the more questions there are.

DNA is a blueprint, and a computer with operating system, that reinvents and evolves itself as the environment decides is best with every generation.

Cry all you want, science is proving this, and that computers and operating systems do not grow in ponds from nothing, they are built by engineers, one who wears the badge of God
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That's where morons like you fuck up on the theory. You think that natural selection leads to some kind of an improvement or more advanced species. It doesn't. Natural selection, pal, isn't a ladder.

You do make me chuckle though, at your massive ignorance of the subject. You're merely using a modern version of the creationist's/ID watch maker bullshit. Nice try, dimwit.
 
domer76 said:
That's where morons like you fuck up on the theory. You think that natural selection leads to some kind of an improvement or more advanced species. It doesn't. Natural selection, pal, isn't a ladder.

You do make me chuckle though, at your massive ignorance of the subject. You're merely using a modern version of the creationist's watch maker bullshit. Nice try, dimwit.
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Theories are mental works that can't be fucked up, only reality can be fucked up. You do not know the difference and keep believing that I am a creationist, which is another word that you do not understand. Take your pills Dick.............
 
TheDonald said:
The fact is that all evolution is based upon errors, some errors are neutral, some are bad and some are beneficial. That said they are still all errors in code, or so the people who laid this theory said. This theory was laid long before DNA was even discovered, but people like you refuse to accept this.

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Wrong again, fool
 
TheDonald said:
Theories are mental works that can't be fucked up, only reality can be fucked up. You do not know the difference and keep believing that I am a creationist, which is another word that you do not understand. Take your pills Dick.............
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Yeah. Intelligent Design. A dressed up creationist.

Same moron. Different hat.
 
domer76 said:
Yeah. Intelligent Design. A dressed up creationist.

Same moron. Different hat.
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For the record I am a Catholic, and you are atheistic pond scum, just like your mom before you.

There is not one credible scientist anywhere who can demonstrate how billions of lines of intelligent information (DNA) arrived from a non intelligent source.

But schizzos invent reality as they go, like your mom did before you
 
TheDonald said:
For the record I am a Catholic, and you are atheistic pond scum, just like your mom before you.

There is not one credible scientist anywhere who can demonstrate how billions of lines of intelligent information (DNA) arrived from a non intelligent source.

But schizzos invent reality as they go, like your mom did before you
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(laughing)

Well, anyone that can buy the bullshit about a virgin birth, a guy rising from the dead, and some sort of weird 3-in-1 god can pretty much believe anything!
 
domer76 said:
(laughing)

Well, anyone that can buy the bullshit about a virgin birth, a guy rising from the dead, and some sort of weird 3-in-1 god can pretty much believe anything!
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Except that invitro fertilization is virgin birth, and people now come back from the dead all the time.

Were you born stupid or did you study
 
TheDonald said:
Except that invitro fertilization is virgin birth, and people now come back from the dead all the time.

Were you born stupid or did you study
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Wow! They had in vitro fertilization 2000 years ago? I'd like to see that citation. Is that how Jesus was conceived?

Has modern medicine been able to revive someone who has died by crucifixion, a spear run through his gut and who has been dead three days? Please, provide that citation, too.

Stick with the walking on water bullshit, pal. You're more suited to children's stories than science.
 
domer76 said:
Wow! They had in vitro fertilization 2000 years ago? I'd like to see that citation.

Has modern medicine been able to revive someone who has died by crucifixion, a spear run through his gut and who has been dead three days? Please, provide that citation, too.

Stick with the walking on water bullshit, pal. You're more suited to children's stories than science.
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We have invitro fertilization now dopey, God had it billions of years before the Earth formed for all we know. 2000 years is nothing when compared to the age of the Universe.

Seriously were you born stupid, or did you go to Harvard to learn how to embarrass yourself?

LOL LOL LOL
 
TheDonald said:
We have invitro fertilization now dopey, God had it billions of years before the Earth formed for all we know. 2000 years is nothing when compared to the age of the Universe.

Seriously were you born stupid, or did you go to Harvard to learn how to embarrass yourself?

LOL LOL LOL
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God had in vitro fertilization "FOR ALL WE KNOW"? Man, pal, you are making a stretch! Does your book mention in vitro fertilization or are you just pulling that from your ass? Yeah, my money is on the rectal reach!

You believe in a virgin birth, resurrection, walking on water, and accuse me of stupidity? That's just fucking priceless!
 
domer76 said:
Wow! They had in vitro fertilization 2000 years ago? I'd like to see that citation. Is that how Jesus was conceived?

Has modern medicine been able to revive someone who has died by crucifixion, a spear run through his gut and who has been dead three days? Please, provide that citation, too.

Stick with the walking on water bullshit, pal. You're more suited to children's stories than science.
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It was never said that the spear was ran "through his gut"; but instead does say that it "pierced" his side.
 
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