Idaho Collapsing Under Pandemic, But Still Not Getting Vaccinated

All Idaho hospitals have been on "crisis standards" since September 16th. They have not only filled their own hospitals, but also Washington's hospitals. They have ended up sending patients to the majority of other states, while sending the bill for all this air traffic to the federal government. A patient (without health insurance, of course) was actually flown to NYC from Idaho. Chicago hospitals have gotten over a hundred Idaho patients.

You would think they would react to all this failure by reversing their positions and getting vaccinated, but no. Idahoans are still refusing to vaccinate.

Worse yet, they are attacking doctors and nurses for even implying they should get vaccinated.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/idaho-hospitals-crisis-weeks-affected-100000289.html

Panama, El Salvador, and Dominican Republic have higher vaccination rates than Idaho.

Mexico should be bypassing them in about a week.

Canada should consider prohibiting entry to anyone who lives in Idaho.
 
As of 10/21:

Staffed adult ICU beds that were still available statewide, according to Idaho Department of Health and Welfare data: 15

Repeat:

15 staffed adult ICU beds STATEWIDE.

People who died in Idaho hospitals with confirmed or suspected COVID-19: 15 (previous day: 8)

https://idahocapitalsun.com/2021/10...and-covid-19-patients-er-visits-and-capacity/

There’s your reality, stupid fuck.

And let me guess, that is even before they use reserve capacity.

Covid is in decline in Idaho, the hospital system did not collapse, it is about time to move onto the next state for your daily dose of COVID Fear Porn.
 
22 deaths?.......is that like one NY nursing home?......

Since September, Idaho has had 1,006 Covid deaths, and New York has had 1,814 Covid deaths, but New York State has far more people than Idaho does. So Idaho is at least 9 times worse, and probably closer to 18 times worse, when you count the hundreds who have been flown out of Idaho before dying.

This should not be happening, but people in Idaho are stubbornly stupid. They really will not get vaccinated.
 
Number of deaths per capita over the entire length of the pandemic is THE primary measure of success and failure.....as you should know.

You want to measure the success of vaccination drives based on what happened at the beginning of the pandemic, long before the vaccine?

Idaho is a spaced out place, which is not a transportation center. The failure of the last two months should not be happening to it.
 
Calm down Wally, send them to the last state the alt lefties were screeching about, Florida, who has ignores federal guidelines and now ranks 48th and is doing just fine.

It just had a third wave of death, when Blue States are not seeing a third wave. In a few months, it will have the fourth wave of death. Amazingly enough, many in Florida are following federal guidelines, but not enough.
 
Calm down Wally, send them to the last state the alt lefties were screeching about, Florida, who has ignores federal guidelines and now ranks 48th and is doing just fine.
these idiots are still talking state vs state ( because they always want to politicize COVID and dissing a red stae does just that)
COVID doesn't respect state boundaries -people travel between states and the vaxxed infect with the same viral load as the unvaxxed ( but vaxxing greatly reduces the chance of cytokine storm, and viral load drops quickly)

Meanwhile Fauci has been lying about not funding GoF research, and we are probably still funding GoF @Wuhan
 
Panama, El Salvador, and Dominican Republic have higher vaccination rates than Idaho.

Mexico should be bypassing them in about a week.

Canada should consider prohibiting entry to anyone who lives in Idaho.

It is tough for Americans to get over the border to Canada these days. The Canadians are assuming all Americans are lying alt righters with forged vaccination cards. It is a disgrace to all.
 
It just had a third wave of death, when Blue States are not seeing a third wave. In a few months, it will have the fourth wave of death. Amazingly enough, many in Florida are following federal guidelines, but not enough.
no indication of a 4th wave.
The virus is "seasonal" we (Fla) have been indoors all summer and are just starting to open up daytime
I hope Blue states don't get a 3rd wave, but masking/vaxxing aren't going to stop any spread
well see
 
no indication of a 4th wave.

We are learning the pattern. The first wave was in the Summer. The second wave was in the Winter. The third wave was in the Summer. The fourth wave will be in the ____.

But I might be wrong, and the fourth wave might not be until Summer again. Well then there still is a fourth wave, and I am still right. There will be a fourth wave hitting Florida, and it will be a deadly wave.

masking/vaxxing aren't going to stop any spread well see

Now you are just making a false statement. Masks, social distancing, and vaccinations definitely stops some spreading. The problem is that the Delta Variant is even better at spreading, so it is two steps forward, one step back. What vaccines are really good at is reducing death by more than 90%.

Now picture you live in the red parts of Florida, and almost no one is vaccinating or wearing a mask... It is the same Delta Variant spreading quickly through there. There will just be wave after wave of death.
 
We are learning the pattern. The first wave was in the Summer. The second wave was in the Winter. The third wave was in the Summer. The fourth wave will be in the ____.

But I might be wrong, and the fourth wave might not be until Summer again. Well then there still is a fourth wave, and I am still right. There will be a fourth wave hitting Florida, and it will be a deadly wave.



Now you are just making a false statement. Masks, social distancing, and vaccinations definitely stops some spreading. The problem is that the Delta Variant is even better at spreading, so it is two steps forward, one step back. What vaccines are really good at is reducing death by more than 90%.

Now picture you live in the red parts of Florida, and almost no one is vaccinating or wearing a mask... It is the same Delta Variant spreading quickly through there. There will just be wave after wave of death.
"stops some spreading?" lol.. is that your epidemiological analysis :rolleyes:
what vaxxes do is reduce the time frame for those vaxxed ability to spread vs. the un vaxxed
So they both can approach the same viral load, but the un-vaxxed (putting aside comorbiditie)
carry the load longer.

from an epidemiological POV they both spread. if you vaxxed 95% they could still infect the other 5%
Basically if you are around any people /vaxed or not/ you can get infected

you idiot. Delta spreads everywhere thru every population worldwide
^ is what i feel like writing but i wont

as to your waves who knows and Florida has led the way on monoclonal antibody availability
Maybe if Biden stopped super spreading COVID migrants that would help as well
 
So Idaho is at least 9 times worse, and probably closer to 18 times worse, when you count the hundreds who have been flown out of Idaho before dying.

no child........Idaho's per million death rate is 1890 versus 2914 for New York......that is neither 9 or 18 times worse......New York is close to 50% higher.......
 
"stops some spreading?" lol.. is that your epidemiological analysis :rolleyes:
what vaxxes do is reduce the time frame for those vaxxed ability to spread vs. the un vaxxed
So they both can approach the same viral load, but the un-vaxxed (putting aside comorbiditie)
carry the load longer.

from an epidemiological POV they both spread. if you vaxxed 95% they could still infect the other 5%
Basically if you are around any people /vaxed or not/ you can get infected

you idiot. Delta spreads everywhere thru every population worldwide
^ is what i feel like writing but i wont

as to your waves who knows and Florida has led the way on monoclonal antibody availability
Maybe if Biden stopped super spreading COVID migrants that would help as well

And, FL shares one of the lowest 7-day positivity rates in the nation. 3 - 4.9% !!!! :cool:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesper100klast7days (drag your mouse across the state you want to check)
 
no child........Idaho's per million death rate is 1890 versus 2914 for New York......that is neither 9 or 18 times worse......New York is close to 50% higher.......

You edited out the since September part of my post. Since September, Idaho has had 812 deaths per million, while New York State has had only 90 deaths per million. That would make Idaho 9 times worse.

But that is excluding the hundreds of Idahoans who have been sent out of state for treatment, but did not survive. The real number is probably closer to 18 times worse, rather than 9 times worse.

If you want to discuss the ramifications of these facts, I am willing to, but repeatedly correcting you on the facts is just boring.
 
And, FL shares one of the lowest 7-day positivity rates in the nation. 3 - 4.9% !!!! :cool:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesper100klast7days (drag your mouse across the state you want to check)
"it's seasonal"
"virus gonna virus"= (BTW -where is DARTH OMAR??)

it's gonna mutate and probably get a new variant until we all get herd immunity
thru vaxxing and/or acquired immunity.
It's the most infectious coronavirus because of the Gain of Function RNA genome splicing
( not sure how it compares to common cold coronavirus transmision)
 
"it's seasonal"
"virus gonna virus"= (BTW -where is DARTH OMAR??)

it's gonna mutate and probably get a new variant until we all get herd immunity
thru vaxxing and/or acquired immunity.
It's the most infectious coronavirus because of the Gain of Function RNA genome splicing
( not sure how it compares to common cold coronavirus transmision)

I was thinking about him yesterday. He might just be taking a sanity break (like some of us do...it helps, LOL)
Yeah, you been keeping up with the whole "Fauci caught lying" saga regarding his role in the g-o-f mess?
Seems I read a few months ago about how it's the natural thing for viruses to do. Mutate. They get weaker each time
as they try harder and harder to exist. Guess eventually they just mutate themselves to death.
You and the "household" doing OK I hope?
 
You edited out the since September part of my post. Since September, Idaho has had 812 deaths per million, while New York State has had only 90 deaths per million. That would make Idaho 9 times worse.

But that is excluding the hundreds of Idahoans who have been sent out of state for treatment, but did not survive. The real number is probably closer to 18 times worse, rather than 9 times worse.

If you want to discuss the ramifications of these facts, I am willing to, but repeatedly correcting you on the facts is just boring.

/shrugs......and you edited out the fact that New York has 50% more deaths per million people than Idaho....anything less than that is not the real number......we both know why you don't want the real number, don't we......
 
/shrugs......and you edited out the fact that New York has 50% more deaths per million people than Idaho....anything less than that is not the real number......we both know why you don't want the real number, don't we......

Wait wait wait, I just read on the Internet that Walt is a great source..but Walt is the one who said that so...I don't know fuck it, carry on.
 
It just had a third wave of death, when Blue States are not seeing a third wave. In a few months, it will have the fourth wave of death. Amazingly enough, many in Florida are following federal guidelines, but not enough.

Live in fear Wally, most sane people have been out and about doing our thing. Stay in the basement and we will call and tell you when it is time to come up for air.
 
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