I'd say Romney won....

The Dude said:
Obama got crushed, when huffing ton is lauding mitt you know it.
Obama came in walking like the patriots and left Like the browns.
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Meh, that's hyperbole. Romney won the night but he didn't crush anyone. I think a lot of people were just simply surprized that he did as well as he did because the conventional wisdom is Obama is a better speaker/debator than Romney.

Considering their both Harvard law school grads and have both been in public life a long time, I figured that was so much BS. I wasn't surprized by Romney's peformance at all. I was surprized by Obama's lack luster performance. He sure wasn't hitting on all cylinders, was he? He came off like a professor giving a policy briefing.
 
The Dude said:
Romney killed Obama on failed energy policy!
He shoved the Exxon quote back up Obama's ass.
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True but Obama killed with his "secret plan" snippet. That was the only time I laughed during what was a rather boring debate. No question though. Romney won the night.
 
The Dude said:
Romney better have a better answer for the 47
Obama better have more than dem talking points.
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Agreed! I was dissapointed by Obama in that regard. It was shades of Al Gore (minus the sighing) in 2000 when Bush had holes in his policies you could have sailed an aircraft carrier through and Gore never took him to task on them.

Having said that, even though both used a lot of boiler plate and talking points Obama did go into far more specifics than Romney did. There's something from my days as a kid in the early 70's when Nixon kept saying "I have a plan!" that just makes me cringe.
 
Jarod said:
Im still voting for President Obama, mostly because of the supreme court... but after the debate I do not belive there is much difference between the two men and I was impressed with Romney and his new found willingness to tell the right wing to sit down and shut up!
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I am too but thre's no sugar coating it. He lost the debate last night.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I am too but thre's no sugar coating it. He lost the debate last night.
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Romney had to win. He had no other option. He's been sliding in the swing state polls and some major money donors had talked of backing off. If he lost the debate I was thinking his campaign would basically be over barring something unforseen. Now he's back to having a fighting chance. Still a long way to go and Obama is still in the lead.
 
blackascoal said:
The sad part about the exchange is that the actual facts were in Obama's favor. Most green energy companies supported by the stimulus have not closed .. and all the money has not been spent. Obama could have shoved that right back at Romney .. but I suspect that he didn't because he doesn't know the details. He leaves details to others.
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Well then shame on him. He wasn't prepared then was he? I have to agree with you. I kind of got the sense that he wasn't as well prepared last night as he ought to have been.

Then again, that may not be a dumb thing. History has shown that the Presidential debates have very little, if any, affect on election outcomes. Maybe he's smart to be using his time focusing on more productive aspects of campaigning cause in that respect he's been kicking Romney's ass. Ohio is a good example. I bet Obama has a 2 or 3 to 1 advantage over Romney in regards to boots on the ground.
 
Superfreak said:
Actually, in the polls you will notice that there is about 7-10% of undecided voters. More than enough to swing the election either way. After Obama's performance and the polls after the debate, Romney likely gained ground. In the end, undecideds swing towards the challenger disproportionately.
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Yup and the Bengals might win the super bowl this year too but I wouldn't count on it if I was you. LOL
 
Jarod said:
I was also impressed that Gov. Romney called the President Mr. President and that he treated him with respect and dignity. It proves you can have honest debate while still being kind and respectfull. (Supercandy, you could take note)
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?? Uhhh Jarod....I've never seen a Presidential debate where that wasn't the case.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yup and the Bengals might win the super bowl this year too but I wouldn't count on it if I was you. LOL
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The stupidity of your above comment is duly noted. Count on what? He stated that most people had made up their minds. I pointed out the percentage of people that had not and the fact that typically the trend is towards the challenger. Which historically is correct.

Then you make the absurd comment above. Thanks for once again proving even the most intelligent of Ohioans are idiots.
 
Superfreak said:
Yes, Jarod, that is exactly what you are saying. You call me out for calling names while at the same time doing what?
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I was not calling you any names... Geesh, unless you are so sensative that you consider supercandy a name. It that upsets you I wond use it anymore, but thats not a name in the way "Moron" is a name. Its not derogatory, I hope you remember where it comes from?
 
cawacko said:
Romney had to win. He had no other option. He's been sliding in the swing state polls and some major money donors had talked of backing off. If he lost the debate I was thinking his campaign would basically be over barring something unforseen. Now he's back to having a fighting chance. Still a long way to go and Obama is still in the lead.
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I think what pleased me the most last night about Romney's performance was when Obama slammed him over the same old tired failed supply sider economics Romney distanced himself from both that and the southern strategy when he replied "Look, I'm not going back there!". He literally faced up the the previous failings of Republicans by doing that and that took courage. I was very excited to hear him do that. If that wasn't a strong, strong indicator that the Republican party is heading into a new direction then I don't know what is. I was very pleased to hear him say that.

I still think Romney will lose. People put to much emphasis on debates. It's more important that you organize your campaign and adequatly staff it, where it's needed, with lots of boots on the ground and operators in call centers while going around giving public speeches and rallying the troops and other proven techniques of electioneering. Romney did well last night but that will not make up for his lagging well behind Obama's campaign organization. Obama has far outshone Romney is this respect. He's just simply better at organizing his troops.
 
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Mott the Hoople said:
I think what pleased me the most last night about Romney's performance was when Obama slammed him over the same old tired failed supply sider economics Romney distanced himself from both that and the southern strategy when he replied "Look, I'm not going back there!". He literally faced up the the previous failings of Republicans by doing that and that took courage. I was very excited to hear him do that. If that wasn't a strong, strong indicator that the Republican party is heading into a new direction then I don't know what is. I was very pleased to hear him say that.
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Since those were the main issues you weren't supporting Romney, are you saying that you're giving Romney a second look? ;)
 
Voltaire said:
Since those were the main issues you weren't supporting Romney, are you saying that you're giving Romney a second look? ;)
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I'm very open minded. Romney is with out a doubt NOT a southern conservative ideologue. I personally think he should have waited till 2016 to run as I think, #1. it was a bad time for a plutocrat like Romney to run for the Presidency and #2. He wouldn't have the disadvantage of facing an incumbant President with all the advantages incumbancy provides.

But I'm keeping my oath Brent. I'm voting for Obama. He had Bin Ladin Killed. He's earned my vote on that alone as far as I'm concerned. That's no reflection on Romney what so ever though.
 
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