ICE is about to start tracking license plates

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The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency has officially gained agency-wide access to a nationwide license plate recognition database, according to a contract finalized earlier this month. The system gives the agency access to billions of license plate records and new powers of real-time location tracking.

An ICE representative said the data came from Vigilant Solutions, the leading network for license plate recognition data. “Like most other law enforcement agencies, ICE uses information obtained from license plate readers as one tool in support of its investigations,” spokesperson Dani Bennett said in a statement.

Vigilant declined to confirm any contract with ICE. “Vigilant Solutions is not at liberty to share any contractual details,” the company said in a statement. “This is a standard agreement between our company, our partners, and our clients.”

Vigilant Solutions has amassed a database of more than 2 billion license plate photos by ingesting data from partners like vehicle repossession agencies and other private groups. Vigilant also partners with local law enforcement agencies, often collecting even more data from camera-equipped police cars. The result is a massive vehicle-tracking network generating as many as 100 million sightings per month, each tagged with a date, time, and GPS coordinates of the sighting.

ICE agents would be able to query that database. A historical search would turn up every place a given license plate has been spotted in the last five years, a detailed record of the target’s movements. That data could be used to find a given subject’s residence or even identify associates if a given car is regularly spotted in a specific parking lot. ICE agents can also receive instantaneous email alerts whenever a new record of a particular plate is found.






https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/26/16932350/ice-immigration-customs-license-plate-recognition-contract-vigilant-solutions
 
as much as I hate illegals, this is bad. It'll be turned against us normal upstanding citizens in no time, if not already.
 
"as much as I hate illegals, this is bad. It'll be turned against us normal upstanding citizens in no time, if not already." RH #5
"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." Thomas Paine
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a) Why do you hate illegals?

b) Orwell warned us.
 
Royal Highness said:
as much as I hate illegals, this is bad. It'll be turned against us normal upstanding citizens in no time, if not already.
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You can guarantee that, no one will be exempt. Electric vehicles will be even worse, every movement be tracked and logged in real time.

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RH #5 isn't sure, so you have to answer for him?

If on per capita basis illegal aliens in the U.S. broke fewer laws than our countrymen, would he / you then love illegals? Or would you / he then merely hate your countrymen?
 
"At this point, people usually say if you've done nothing wrong then you've nothing to worry about, amirite?" HM #11
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Your question is an inquiry about what people usually say.
I can't attest to that.

However, on the proposition attributed to them:

The DACA Americans, the ones President Trump is going after so aggressively, even if technically illegal, are here through no fault of their own.
They were brought here as minors, many of whom were too young to have useful memory of the nations from which they were taken. Thus they are rather more victim than criminal. Therefore deporting them now, at or near adulthood, is to punish the victim; EVEN IN CASES WHERE SUCH INDIVIDUALS HAVE NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF A CRIME.

Volumes could be written on this. Suffice it to say, for the political party, the Republican party that prides itself on being the party of family values, disrupting families this way is worse than merely being disruptive on personal level. It's destructive on a national level.
 
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"Democrats have already said they want to tax us for every mile we drive. Tracking technology like this will allow a mileage tax to happen." h #12
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I'm a licensed driver, so I have an opinion on a mileage tax.

BUT !!

Just as a perspective on fairness:
The reason a government revenue generator like a bridge toll makes sense is, the ones that USE the bridge PAY for the bridge.
That makes sense.
This is why a highway maintenance tax on automotive fuel makes sense.

A moped will do less harm to pavement than a 3 ton SUV. But the 3 ton SUV consumes more fuel, and thus more highway maintenance revenue is generated.

The fairness of a mileage tax:
some people use automotive fuels for farm equipment. I've got acres of lawn to mow here, and consume gasoline, kerosene, and diesel. I pay highway tax on fuel that doesn't involve highway in its consumption.

A mileage tax would solve that problem, and thus would be fairer.
 
sear said:
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I'm a licensed driver, so I have an opinion on a mileage tax.

BUT !!

Just as a perspective on fairness:
The reason a government revenue generator like a bridge toll makes sense is, the ones that USE the bridge PAY for the bridge.
That makes sense.
This is why a highway maintenance tax on automotive fuel makes sense.

A moped will do less harm to pavement than a 3 ton SUV. But the 3 ton SUV consumes more fuel, and thus more highway maintenance revenue is generated.

The fairness of a mileage tax:
some people use automotive fuels for farm equipment. I've got acres of lawn to mow here, and consume gasoline, kerosene, and diesel. I pay highway tax on fuel that doesn't involve highway in its consumption.

A mileage tax would solve that problem, and thus would be fairer.
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There is no road tax on offroad diesel.
 
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- dandy -

But where that is not available, it's academic.

And while I could drive to where it is available, the fuel consumed for that round trip would cost more than the tax saved by so doing.

Again, the mileage tax solves that problem too. And again, I'm not advocating it; merely observing that it could be more fair.
 
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as much as I hate illegals, this is bad. It'll be turned against us normal upstanding citizens in no time, if not already.
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ICE has no interest in US citizens unless they are engaged in crimes relating to immigration or customs enforcement.

The same technology is already has already been in use nationwide for years. Police and repossession agencies use it every day. Police dashcams and stationary readers on bridges and toll booths etc. are already tracking license plates and have been for years. The only "news" here is that now ICE has access to the data.

Also, ICE won’t upload new data to Vigilant’s system but simply scan through the data that’s already there. In practical terms, that means driving past a Vigilant-linked camera might flag a car to ICE, but driving past an ICE camera won’t flag a car to everyone else using the system. License plates on the hot list will expire after one year, and the system retains audit logs to trace back any abuse of the system.
 
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At this point, people usually say if you've done nothing wrong then you've nothing to worry about, amirite?
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Ironic, since the UK police use facial recognition software, CCTV, traffic cameras, the lot - and have for years. There are cameras everywhere in the UK, and the denizens of that tiny island are the most-watched people in Europe.
 
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Ironic, since the UK police use facial recognition software, CCTV, traffic cameras, the lot - and have for years. There are cameras everywhere in the UK, and the denizens of that tiny island are the most-watched people in Europe.
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Yes they use ANPR to detect untaxed and uninsured cars. We do have many cameras but I can't help feeling that you lot are catching up fast. When EVs become commonplace the police will be able to track you at all times and check your speed as well.

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Havana Moon said:
Yes they use ANPR to detect untaxed and uninsured cars. We do have a lit of cameras but I can't help feeling that you lot are catching up fast. When EVs become commonplace the police will be able to track you at all times and check your speed as well.
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Jesus, Tom, police and government agencies can already do that. It's not news to you, is it?
 
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